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Re: Should've, could've, just plain disgusted now
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2009, 12:49:03 AM »
The shot is the end of the hunt. It makes sense to end it fast and easy. It makes sense to use a shotgun. After seeing well hit birds go along ways and in 1 case getting away nobody I hunt with is going to use a bow.

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Re: Should've, could've, just plain disgusted now
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2009, 05:28:01 AM »

   The shot is the end of the hunt. It makes sense to end it fast and easy. It makes sense to use a shotgun. After seeing well hit birds go along ways and in 1 case getting away nobody I hunt with is going to use a bow.


... so, would it be correct to assume that you don't bow hunt (or, do you) ??

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Re: Should've, could've, just plain disgusted now
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2009, 06:20:27 AM »
Maybe we need a special section for Wisturkeyhunter, titled "How to do EVERYTHING" right.  ;D   Of course, he'd have to get back to you on most questions, after he asked his Idol.  ;D

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Re: Should've, could've, just plain disgusted now
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2009, 10:12:51 PM »

   The shot is the end of the hunt. It makes sense to end it fast and easy. It makes sense to use a shotgun. After seeing well hit birds go along ways and in 1 case getting away nobody I hunt with is going to use a bow.


... so, would it be correct to assume that you don't bow hunt (or, do you) ??


Not for turkeys. I think a bow makes a very effective weapon for killing deer though.

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Re: Should've, could've, just plain disgusted now
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2009, 10:26:22 PM »

   The shot is the end of the hunt. It makes sense to end it fast and easy. It makes sense to use a shotgun. After seeing well hit birds go along ways and in 1 case getting away nobody I hunt with is going to use a bow.


... so, would it be correct to assume that you don't bow hunt (or, do you) ??



Not for turkeys. I think a bow makes a very effective weapon for killing deer though.


Curious as to why a bow "might not" be considered effective for turkeys ??

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Re: Should've, could've, just plain disgusted now
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2009, 10:37:08 PM »
Because of the 7 turkeys I've seen shot with arrows 3 didn't drop on the spot and one was lost all good shots. Slightly less than half is way to much. Because every year guys that are excellent bow hunters lose birds to arrows yet they kill pretty much every deer they shoot at with bows. Difference between a deer and a turkey is a turkey dosen't bed down with a blood trail leading to them.
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Re: Should've, could've, just plain disgusted now
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2009, 10:53:03 PM »

... sounds like 6 of 7 were recovered - with 1 lost - I think that's what I got out of that ...
I will agree about the difference in the blood trail, although that's not a gimme' on deer either - many factors can be brought into this - shot timing, shot placement, broadheads, to name just a few ...
... it's possible that the same could be said about certain hunters with firearms - seems almost impossible to not drop a bird with a shotgun; but we all know it happens, & it's usually not the weapons fault ...
... to each his own ... *cheers*

 
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Re: Should've, could've, just plain disgusted now
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2009, 06:46:16 AM »
The shot is the end of the hunt. It makes sense to end it fast and easy. It makes sense to use a shotgun. After seeing well hit birds go along ways and in 1 case getting away nobody I hunt with is going to use a bow.

To each their own.   I've never lost a bird to a bow.  I've missed them (well ok this was the first time).  My 3 hunting partners I regularly hunt with have NEVER lost a bird to a bow.  You want to know something... I've seen more birds wounded with a shotgun than I have with a bow.

If you are so concerned about losing a bird, I'd suggest looking at the gobbler guillotines.  Cut their heads off!!!

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Re: Should've, could've, just plain disgusted now
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2009, 06:49:07 AM »

   The shot is the end of the hunt. It makes sense to end it fast and easy. It makes sense to use a shotgun. After seeing well hit birds go along ways and in 1 case getting away nobody I hunt with is going to use a bow.


... so, would it be correct to assume that you don't bow hunt (or, do you) ??


Not for turkeys. I think a bow makes a very effective weapon for killing deer though.

Fair enough!!!  Two people can always agree to disagree.  You've seen wounded animals and your issue appears to be the safe and humane harvest of the game!! 

I'm sure, if I ever wounded one... that would be the end for me too! 

I'm more scared wounding a deer for some reason.  Never really figured that out :(

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Re: Should've, could've, just plain disgusted now
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2009, 06:50:47 AM »
Because of the 7 turkeys I've seen shot with arrows 3 didn't drop on the spot and one was lost all good shots. Slightly less than half is way to much. Because every year guys that are excellent bow hunters lose birds to arrows yet they kill pretty much every deer they shoot at with bows. Difference between a deer and a turkey is a turkey dosen't bed down with a blood trail leading to them.

Definitely cannot argue with the bedding down!!! 

I've been fortunate though that every bird I've seen shot with an arrow has dropped on the spot. 

I've thought about doing neck shots only, and may go to that philosophy!

I have a friend that will only shoot at them when they are by a tree.  He pins them to the tree that way. 

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Re: Should've, could've, just plain disgusted now
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2009, 08:19:17 AM »
Mike misses happen to the best of us, and so does wounding an animal!! Anybody who has never had it happen be it gun or bow is just plain lucky!!!

 I have never lost a wounded bow shot bird but came close one time. I had 3 tom's walk past me at 15 feet while sitting in a ground blind. I shot the last bird coming through the opening and at the shot feathers flew every where. I watched the bird walk down in a raven and when they waked back up the other side I only saw 2. I knew that the bird was down some where but it took over 2 hours to find him. He had crawled under a blow down and the only thing showing was the tips of his tail. It was just pure luck that I found him!!! Would I have given up bow hunting had I not found him? Absolutly not!!!!

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Re: Should've, could've, just plain disgusted now
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2009, 08:31:47 AM »

   The shot is the end of the hunt. It makes sense to end it fast and easy. It makes sense to use a shotgun. After seeing well hit birds go along ways and in 1 case getting away nobody I hunt with is going to use a bow.


... so, would it be correct to assume that you don't bow hunt (or, do you) ??


Not for turkeys. I think a bow makes a very effective weapon for killing deer though.

noth'in wrong with use'in a bow for turkey hunt'in...........................the method of harvest has been around a long time.....................
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Re: Should've, could've, just plain disgusted now
« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2009, 08:37:24 AM »

   The shot is the end of the hunt. It makes sense to end it fast and easy. It makes sense to use a shotgun. After seeing well hit birds go along ways and in 1 case getting away nobody I hunt with is going to use a bow.


... so, would it be correct to assume that you don't bow hunt (or, do you) ??


Not for turkeys. I think a bow makes a very effective weapon for killing deer though.

noth'in wrong with use'in a bow for turkey hunt'in...........................the method of harvest has been around a long time.....................

i agree.  if you have the right set up and make a good shot, you will kill the bird.  plenty of deer are hit and not recovered.  you will never have a 100% recovery rate, regardless of weapon used, for both deer and turkey.  if using a bow, you need to make sure you know your effective distance and be firm on sticking with it.  same goes for deer.  lack of well placed shots, often result in non-recovery of animals, plain and simple.

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Re: Should've, could've, just plain disgusted now
« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2009, 08:57:21 AM »
Ron very well said!!! When shooting a turkey with a bow I only take two certain shots! one is when the bird is facing away from me where i can aim between his wings. This shot will break it's back putting the bird down instantly!! The second shot is broad side aiming for where the hwing connect to the body. I have never seen a bird go more then 30 yards when hit here. By the way I use the same broadheads for both deer and turkey. I hope this help someone!!

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Re: Should've, could've, just plain disgusted now
« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2009, 09:00:18 AM »
Ron very well said!!! When shooting a turkey with a bow I only take two certain shots! one is when the bird is facing away from me where i can aim between his wings. This shot will break it's back putting the bird down instantly!! The second shot is broad side aiming for where the hwing connect to the body. I have never seen a bird go more then 30 yards when hit here. By the way I use the same broadheads for both deer and turkey. I hope this help someone!!

 BigTom

and with deer, i will not take a quartering to shot.  i will either take a quartering away, or broadside shot only.  if neither presents itself, the deer walks.