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Why do...
« on: February 28, 2011, 03:43:57 PM »
people glue the lid screws in thier box calls???  I hate that.  No way to adjust it later on down the road if you want or to replace a spring if need.  Just wonder what the reason is behind it.

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Re: Why do...
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2011, 03:45:53 PM »
Waiting on the replies!

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Re: Why do...
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2011, 03:55:27 PM »
Went to replace a spring on a box call last evening, snagged it last year in the woods on something, and unknown to me the darn screw was glued in and it being a brass #8...the darn thing snapped off down inside the box.   :-[

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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2011, 04:03:07 PM »
Went to replace a spring on a box call last evening, snagged it last year in the woods on something, and unknown to me the darn screw was glued in and it being a brass #8...the darn thing snapped off down inside the box.   :-[

WOW, fixable but a pain for sure,
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Re: Why do...
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 07:36:24 PM »
My guess would be that for some reason the screw hole was either too big or wallowed out.  So when the call is ran the screw would back out and the call would be perpetually out of tune.  Just a guess.

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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2011, 07:59:48 PM »
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Re: Why do...
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2011, 09:16:59 PM »
 Jason

Never heard of that one! I've had screws get set in a call and twist off. Usually becasue the wood was still to wet when the screw was put in. I suggest when you take the screw out or put one in, you either use bees wax on the threads of the screw or candle wax

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Re: Why do...
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2011, 09:20:05 PM »
My guess would be that for some reason the screw hole was either too big or wallowed out.  So when the call is ran the screw would back out and the call would be perpetually out of tune.  Just a guess.

I would think, a wallowed out hole would be easy to fix vs completely ruining a call by glueing the screw in.  *cry* *cry*

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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2011, 09:35:01 PM »
Send it back to the callmaker amd let him deal with it...... :-\
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Re: Why do...
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2011, 09:40:06 PM »
Yeah, when I snapped the screw off I saw glue all over the threads.  I was also surprized at how darn easy a #8 screw will break :-\.  I only post this to help call makers understand that doing this...  may not be a good idea.  Was not to offend in any way.

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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2011, 10:49:17 PM »
Send it back to the callmaker amd let him deal with it...... :-\
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Re: Why do...
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2011, 07:34:41 AM »
I have never heard of this also and I don't know anyone who does this, can't imagine the need unless some mistake was done during building.

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Re: Why do...
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2011, 06:58:13 AM »
Lamar Williams, Darrin Dawkins, and other custom call makers that I know glue the lid screw.

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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2011, 08:22:38 AM »
Interesting is the assumption the call maker made a mistake of some kind. From a call makers standpoint, every attempt must be made to ensure a call doesn't fail in the field. Most of us are not making calls to earn a living, we do it because we love it and want you, the hunter, to be successful in the field. Countless, and I mean countless hours are spent in the shop perfecting our skills. I and many other call makers can attest to the personal sacrifices made to learn this craft, which for many of us is more like an obsession. Our reputation rides on every call that leaves the shop.
One of the things you learn as a call maker, is that a call has to be foolproof. Hunters will sometimes think they can adjust a call to make it sound better. Maybe they can, if they know how to tune a call. For example, a predator or duck call made with a Lousiana tone board. A hunter takes it apart thinking he can adjust it, tune it or whatever, puts it back together and it sounds even worse. Because he doesn't know where the reed should be placed on the sound board for optimum sound, he is now even more frustrated and blames the call maker.
A screw on a box call might be glued in once the call is finished and tuned to prevent the hunter from making adjustments, not to make it difficult for the hunter, but to keep the lid in the optimum position for making turkey sounds. It might also be done if the call is being sent in to a competition for the same reason. These calls get handled a lot, and things can happen to screws. If it backs out a half turn it can dramatically change the sound of a call.
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Re: Why do...
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2011, 06:11:45 PM »
Its a screw for adjusting the lid on box call... not tuning a high performance car engine.

If I pay good money for a box call and personally want to or need to make an adjustment on said call... I want that option. I do not need my box calls "child proofed". JMO.

P.S.-If a screw is put in right it shouldn't back out very easily.  I have a call from Albert Paul I have hunted the dog off for years and the screw has never once backed out.
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