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Offline GR8CALLS

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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2011, 06:24:19 PM »
  I still question why? I know most of those gentleman won't put a lid to a call, until it sets for a spell. Wood being wood, it is always changing, depending on humidity and/or temperature. A call sent from Florida (for example) to Arizona....will change considerably in tone. Glueing in the screw won't allow the new owner to compensate for any change.

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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2011, 09:05:58 PM »
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I still question why? I know most of those gentleman won't put a lid to a call, until it sets for a spell. Wood being wood, it is always changing, depending on humidity and/or temperature. A call sent from Florida (for example) to Arizona....will change considerably in tone. Glueing in the screw won't allow the new owner to compensate for any change.


X2  Glueing up a screw hole because it is wallowed out is fixing the issue of the moment. Not fixing the problem. And that is just speculation. Makes no sense to take the flexiblity of tuning a call away...permanently. Most all things eventually need tweaked. Cars, guns and even turkey calls. As to new owners tinkering around and "screwing" it up (or down ;)), that is how you learn how to do.  Practice and experimentation.  I think it is a great idea to get ahold of the maker. I wouldn't hesitate to back up any call I make.  But I have a couple of old Lynch boxes and M.L is gonna be hard to track down for service I am thinkin.... 8) Every turkey hunter needs to know how to adjust his (or her) equipment.

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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2011, 10:00:28 PM »
Again, you are assuming something that may not be the case (a call maker "fixing" a wallowed out screw hole)
I don't glue my screws into a call, was merely suggesting another reason a call maker might do this, that is to ensure the paddle stays at the optimal position to play, and to keep people who don't know what they are doing from "tinkering" with it (or in the case of high stakes competitions). I would assume that a call maker with a reputation such as Lamar Williams or Darrin Dawkins, if they do in fact glue a screw in, would have a valid reason to do so, other than making a mistake and trying to fix it.

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Re: Why do...
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2011, 08:19:32 AM »
Again, you are assuming something that may not be the case (a call maker "fixing" a wallowed out screw hole)
I don't glue my screws into a call, was merely suggesting another reason a call maker might do this, that is to ensure the paddle stays at the optimal position to play, and to keep people who don't know what they are doing from "tinkering" with it (or in the case of high stakes competitions). I would assume that a call maker with a reputation such as Lamar Williams or Darrin Dawkins, if they do in fact glue a screw in, would have a valid reason to do so, other than making a mistake and trying to fix it.
From What I have been told from Call Makers that DO gLue their lid screw in is exactly what Dave says...That call in their opinion is where it should be when it leaves the shop and they dont want someone or anyone making adjustments...Thats what I have heard the reason is..

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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2011, 07:06:45 AM »

   Again, you are assuming something that may not be the case (a call maker "fixing" a wallowed out screw hole)
   I don't glue my screws into a call, was merely suggesting another reason a call maker might do this, that is to ensure the paddle stays at the optimal position to play, and to keep people who don't know what they are doing from "tinkering" with it (or in the case of high stakes competitions).
   I would assume that a call maker with a reputation such as Lamar Williams or Darrin Dawkins, if they do in fact glue a screw in, would have a valid reason to do so, other than making a mistake and trying to fix it.


   From What I have been told from Call Makers that DO gLue their lid screw in is exactly what Dave says...That call in their opinion is where it should be when it leaves the shop and they dont want someone or anyone making adjustments...Thats what I have heard the reason is..


... from a buyer's perspective - when gettin' a box caller from "other than" the maker, the thought does cross your mind "on occasion" -------- as to whether someone's monkey'd 'round with the screw ... :-\

Interestin' topic for sure - "to glue, or not to glue" --------- some good points made by all ... 8)

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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2011, 02:55:03 PM »
Personally I don't glue my screws in my box calls.  I can see both sides to this story and see reasons to glue and not to glue.  When I am done with a call it is tuned to the best of my ability and that is exactly the way I want that call to sound, if not I start over and that call gets scrapped.  So for that reason I could see gluing in the screw so someone sould not tweek it, it's been tweeked to the best of it's ability.  (People don't realize that a 1/4 turn on a screw can dramatically change the tone, pitch and or break of the call).  And unless you really put a call through the ringer and run it for hours @ a time every day I can't see it coming out of tune or the rails and lid wearing out.  If it's built properly I can't see the screw backing out except for possible EXTREME climate and humidity changes, but even then I 'm not sure if it's necessary.  I build my calls in SW Pennsylvania and have shipped calls all of the US and have had no complaints to this day.  Just my 2 cents, but like everything else everybody is gonna have their own opinion.

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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2011, 08:49:54 PM »
Again, you are assuming something that may not be the case (a call maker "fixing" a wallowed out screw hole)
I don't glue my screws into a call, was merely suggesting another reason a call maker might do this, that is to ensure the paddle stays at the optimal position to play, and to keep people who don't know what they are doing from "tinkering" with it (or in the case of high stakes competitions). I would assume that a call maker with a reputation such as Lamar Williams or Darrin Dawkins, if they do in fact glue a screw in, would have a valid reason to do so, other than making a mistake and trying to fix it.

Did I miss a post somewhere that said that it was one of Lamar or Darrins calls?  Just curious...
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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2011, 11:35:27 AM »
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Lamar Williams, Darrin Dawkins, and other custom call makers that I know glue the lid screw.


I don't believe that the manufacturer of the call in question was named.

But the quote from above was the first reference to those two call makers.

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« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2011, 03:25:02 PM »
 I did speak w/ Lamar about this, and he does glue his screws in on his LB's.

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