Osage Roost
General Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bulldogmikey on February 22, 2011, 09:29:17 AM
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Not scientific by any means but I have been doing a lot of reading and research (informal) and it sure seems that a good copper call has a little "something" that gives it an edge. in the woods. The feedback on our Copper calls, and the many other makers of Copper calls seem to report a lot of success in the field. It is my favorite tone in a pot call and while it is a little more difficult to master and is a high maintenance surface, in my opinion it is hard to beat as a surface. I would love hear your thoughts.
Mike
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Mike,
I'm still not conviced with copper being a good surface for a hunting call. I've used copper calls for five years and they just don't get the response that they should, at least here where I hunt. Last year was the first time I had a bird gobble half heartedly, to a copper call but he walked away after he gobbled twice.
When I run the calls they sound good to me yet there must be something that I/we as humans don't here that the turkeys do which they don't like. I know a lot of people have killed birds with copper calls and I'll keep trying with mine. However, I don't have any confidence in these calls when I use them that they will produce.
Maybe this season will be different!!
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This year will be my first spring in the woods with a copper pot (thank you Mike!). I will let you know how it stacks up
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I'm not a fan of metallic surfaces in friction calls. Theres a certain metallic sound that I pick out from a mile away and it just doesnt register with the "turkey" in my head. I'll take a rock, ceramic, or glass surface over the metallics any day.
With that being said, tons of turkeys fall to metallic calls each year so they obviously work and some people clearly like them.
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Never used one myself. But, I did watch a bunch of them fly off of a man's table at the GN's this year. I think he sold out the first day.
Mark
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Guys, I have had birds gobble at copper when they will not gobble at anything else. Maybe it is these TN birds ;D. I have more confidence in a copper call than anything. I sell more copper calls than I do anything and the feedback is awesome. Just my .02
Daryl
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I'm just learning on my first copper pot which I plan to try this spring. I do like aluminum though.
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Guys, I have had birds gobble at copper when they will not gobble at anything else. Maybe it is these TN birds ;D. I have more confidence in a copper call than anything. I sell more copper calls than I do anything and the feedback is awesome. Just my .02
Daryl
They sho'nuff sounded good Daryl
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The more I hunt these birds, the more I believe that they have and recognize individual voices like we do. I keep hearing about how this call is the hottest thing around and that one ain't worth squat. But then someone else will reverse that or both of them produce for them (or neither). So, I'm speculating that if there is a hen on your place that has a voice similar to the sound a copper pot makes, then that pot will produce for you. And if you have a bunch of hens, there's a good chance one of them sounds like that copper pot.
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Guys, I have had birds gobble at copper when they will not gobble at anything else. Maybe it is these TN birds ;D. I have more confidence in a copper call than anything. I sell more copper calls than I do anything and the feedback is awesome. Just my .02
Daryl
They sho'nuff sounded good Daryl
Thank you Mark. They went like candy at the show. Wish I would have made more.
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It's funny how many varying opinions that there seem to be. For me, I hate the sound of a slate call. They all sound the same and I can pick them out from any other call, yet that is the most popular call. For those that say they hear the metallic sound in a copper call, then it is not a good copper call. I have made several that have had that sound and I can't stand it and try to keep from them leaving the house. The thing about copper, is that it is extremely difficult to make them sound consistently the same. When you get a good one there is no other surface that can stack up to it. I have heard several different call makers rendition of copper, and in my opinion there are a select few that can produce a quality copper call time in and time out. Like I said, it is hard to get that consistent sound out of every single pot. For me, about 3 in 5 turn out right. Maybe it is something I am doing, but I know when you have a good copper call the only thing to beat it is a box call and that would be close.
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I have owned three Copper calls. One is special, only heard sounds like that come out of a select few calls. This call is Copper over acrylic. The second call was copper over slate. Sweet sounds emanated from this call. Unfortunately the call maker in an attempt to hurry things up used the glue he had on hand and not the glue he knew worked. This call came apart on the first creek jump. Made me sick, his replacement has been a total disappointment. I just bought a copper over acrylic from Daryl that is very close in sound to my special call.
No call is 100 % we know that, some calls work and some don't. Classic example, I have a long box that sounds terrible to me. Can't believe I even purchased the dadgum thing. But do turkeys gobble at it? YOU BET I have killed several birds with it when they would gobble at nothing else. That said, I believe they produce and will always have mine in the vest!!!! But it has to be copper over acrylic best combination out there in my biased oppinion. In fact I am coming to the conclusion that acrylic should be the only sound board used in a call. Brings the pop out of the cuts and some sweet roll over!
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Copper calls either have it or they don't to my ear.
I have one from a western callmaker... It doesn't do much for me, but the turkey love the call....Shows ya, what I know....
I don't care for the high maintenence, either......
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... kinda' interestin' thread - some interestin' comments made for sure ... ;)
... as with "all" surfaces - quality of sound depends on the maker, not just the "type" of surface ------ "it just ain't that simple" *wha* ............ *gobble*
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... kinda' interestin' thread - some interestin' comments made for sure ... ;)
... as with "all" surfaces - quality of sound depends on the maker, not just the "type" of surface ------ "it just ain't that simple" *wha* ............ *gobble*
The thread is about the sound of a particular surface. Not the difference in callmakers.
Mike
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... kinda' interestin' thread - some interestin' comments made for sure ... ;)
... as with "all" surfaces - quality of sound depends on the maker, not just the "type" of surface ------ "it just ain't that simple" *wha* ............ *gobble*
The thread is about the sound of a particular surface. Not the difference in callmakers.
Mike
... uhhhhhhh - ok ... *cheers*
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... kinda' interestin' thread - some interestin' comments made for sure ... ;)
... as with "all" surfaces - quality of sound depends on the maker, not just the "type" of surface ------ "it just ain't that simple" *wha* ............ *gobble*
The thread is about the sound of a particular surface. Not the difference in callmakers.
Mike
... uhhhhhhh - ok ... *cheers*
No problem, if you ever have a problem just ask, I'll walk you through it! *up*
Mike
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... kinda' interestin' thread - some interestin' comments made for sure ... ;)
... as with "all" surfaces - quality of sound depends on the maker, not just the "type" of surface ------ "it just ain't that simple" *wha* ............ *gobble*
The thread is about the sound of a particular surface. Not the difference in callmakers.
Mike
... uhhhhhhh - ok ... *cheers*
No problem, if you ever have a problem just ask, I'll walk you through it! *up*
Mike
... thanks for the offer Mike - I'll be sure to let ya' know ;) ... ROTFLMBO ROTFLMBO ROTFLMBO
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I presently have six copper pot calls. Some of them are just pure turkey. They have the sound that birds seem to respond to and they have become one of my favorite surfaces. I also have a couple copper calls that have that metallic clang that I really do not care for and these calls will not be used. My advise on a copper call would be to run it before you buy it. The right copper call is a killer in the turkey woods.
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Copper does not become a call surface, unitl it hits a call makers Hands Mike, so in reality, it is all, about the call maker.
You can not judge the sounds of a copper call, until it hits the hands of a tried and True call maker of friction.
My meaning is, you can make 5 pots from novice friction call makers, and everyone will probably say, I am not so much into the copper.
Put that copper in the hands of a Experienced Friction maker, and the " Tunes " will change.
Copper has its place in the woods as do many. Ya never know WHAT, the Old man wants to hear that day. All about HIS Mood, what he wants to hear, wednesday, may be slate, thursday, may be copper.
Copper has its place in the woods, Killed to many birds to not have.
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I presently have six copper pot calls. Some of them are just pure turkey. They have the sound that birds seem to respond to and they have become one of my favorite surfaces. I also have a couple copper calls that have that metallic clang that I really do not care for and these calls will not be used. My advise on a copper call would be to run it before you buy it. The right copper call is a killer in the turkey woods.
Good advise Rickey, we always ship, tell the customer to play the call a few days and if they are happy then pay us, if not just send it back and everybody is happy!
Mike
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That is a good policy Mike. I think about all the callmakers on this forum do that. But sometimes you get a call that just does not sound right and you do not want to offend someone so you just keep it.
Another thing I have found with copper calls more so than with other surfaces is that the striker can really change how a call sounds. If you get one that has that "metallic clang" run several strikers on it before you give up on it.
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Copper does not become a call surface, unitl it hits a call makers Hands Mike, so in reality, it is all, about the call maker.
You can not judge the sounds of a copper call, until it hits the hands of a tried and True call maker of friction.
My meaning is, you can make 5 pots from novice friction call makers, and everyone will probably say, I am not so much into the copper.
Put that copper in the hands of a Experienced Friction maker, and the " Tunes " will change.
Copper has its place in the woods as do many. Ya never know WHAT, the Old man wants to hear that day. All about HIS Mood, what he wants to hear, wednesday, may be slate, thursday, may be copper.
Copper has its place in the woods, Killed to many birds to not have.
Exactly. Well said Spur. I've seen some that should have never left wood box.
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I have one copper pot and I cant get that thing to play worth a squat and I am afraid to buy another!!!
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I like copper calls,they have been good too me.. The only thing I notice is they need more conditioning then other calls. But when they are right,they sound great!
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Recently recieved my first pot call with a copper surface over glass.
The sound is very powerful; I like it. 8)
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I'm not a pot call user...but if I was it would be one of Daryl's copper pots...I really like the way they sound..and believe me, I have had a chance to hear them!
Charlie
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I'm not a pot call user...but if I was it would be one of Daryl's copper pots...I really like the way they sound..and believe me, I have had a chance to hear them!
Charlie
*lol* *lol* *lol* *lol* *lol* *lol* *lol* *lol* *lol* Sorry Charlie, just gave me some flash backs!
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Charlie---can ya still hear em in your sleep man !!!! ROTFLMBO ROTFLMBO ROTFLMBO
They do have VOLUME dont they !!!!!
But they are good uns Daryl !!!!
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I'm not a pot call user...but if I was it would be one of Daryl's copper pots...I really like the way they sound..and believe me, I have had a chance to hear them!
Charlie
Been so long I almost forgot what they sound like! ROTFLMBO
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Something I've not seen anyone mention is I believe a copper has to be 3" diameter to sound the best. I used to love the 3.5 until I started using the 3" ones. Now 3.5 sound really bad to me :(
I have several from Daryl and Ed and believe me, I never go out in the woods without a copper pot and it's generally in Osage :)
Our birds around here are very responsive to them and I just love that copper sound.
Of course, some of that has to deal with knowing Daryl. I cannot get half out of those copper calls like Daryl can. Of course, half of Nashville can tell you that still *lol*
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I really like the copper. It has become my favorite pot to make. I had some good help in the beginning (thanks Daryl). I won't go in the woods without one.
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Haven't tryed one out yet. Patiently waiting on Daryl to help me out...