Rickey, I had a young college student on another forum get with me on one of my Gator Gobbling Stiblings last year. I showed him how to work the hen side with the gobbler side for those public hunted turkeys. He used up the piece of chalk that came with the call and before the season started last year. When the season was over, he had killed two fine public forrest turkeys. --- It is deadly on public ground, mainly because they have not heard it before. In conjuction with that gobbler it is deadly. I have had turkeys shot out from in front of me on public land, because they have come from so far off, every turkey hunter in the area hears them too. I have had two in homochitto killed out from in front of me, and the sorry hunters never made the first call.