Author Topic: Lession learned bieing sold Amara when it was represented as Macassar -BEWARE  (Read 326 times)

Offline jmck

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I want to pass on a little information I have been EDUCATED to. I will not mention any names here, but I feel what was done INTENTIONALLY with TOTAL MISREPRESENTATION on a sellers behalf.
  I have been looking hard to find some Macassar to try on a few calls as ya'll have seen the posts. I kept looking and ran across someone on EBAY that I sent pictures of the color and grain I was looking for. We communicated back and forth and I ended up ordering about $250.00 worth of what I thought was MACASSAR Ebony. That is what I asked for and no substitute was ever mentioned.
  Well to make a long story short, I got the wood and noticed a different color in the brown part of the wood. It was alot more of a redish brown. I thought tounge oils may bring the color around so I went to sawing it. Made all the material into lid and base material.
  Then I set in to build a butternut with it. Got it finished up-threw the tounge oil to it and expected to see what I was looking for. It was no where close.
   In my desire to try the correct Macassar, I continued my persuit and have spoke to a man in Indonesia. He informed me of what others do representating Amara as Macassar. It is alot cheaper and nowhere near the density of Macassar. Its the ole greed thing here at work and I wanted to share my lession with you guys so you don't fall into the trap I did.
  I did not contact the man that misrepresented the wood as I cut it up. Its mine. Wish I had found out before sawing it up---I would have demanded my $250 back. Some people are just plain greedy and have no scruples. I did not misunderstand anything the seller told me--I thoght I was buying genuine Macassar..thats what I requested..not a cheap forgery. As you can tell- I am steamed--but it's ultimatlly my fault.
I have enclosed a pics of the two woods so maybe I can prevent anyone else here stepping into the trap I did.
Amara Wood:

Geniune Macassar:
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sorry to hear about that.

Offline Bulldogmikey

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Wow! That is a MAJOR difference! I would have been in the same boat! I always thought that guy was straight up! Thanks Jeff.

Mike
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Jeff, sorry to hear of this, hopefully it will make some paddles for you.
My understanding as told to me by a wood dealer is that Macassar Ebony is one of those Ebony woods that are sometimes called Macassar due to the coloration and striping, and where it is found and harvested. Sometimes it is labeled as Macassar when in fact it isn't true Macassar. These different types of Ebonies are found in different parts of the world, and it is a limited resource,  some varities of woods are on lists of threatened or endangered species. Some countries are no longer allowing exports of certain species, and unsrcupulous dealers, may get around export bans by calling it something other than it is, (or to get a better price). This deception may be passed on to the importer, who may not have actually seen the wood until it was shipped and received. The dealer may not even be aware he was a victim of deception, sometimes it is very difficult to know what you have until you begin cutting it up. Some trees are harvested and carried out on the backs of natives in certain regions for what we would consider a pittance, processed green and waxed adding to the difficulty of positively identifying it. As these woods become scarce, smaller trees are being cut as well.
I'm not defending the seller who sold you the wood, he may or may not have been aware himself of the true identity of the wood. I have bought different kinds of ebonies on e-bay,without major problems other than sometimes the wood being too green to use right away. I prefer if possible to buy from a dealer who knows what he has, has a moisture meter on hand, and I like to be able to hand pick it myself.