Author Topic: A CAll To Arms!!!!  (Read 14972 times)

ronmexico

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Re: A CAll To Arms!!!!
« Reply #60 on: September 29, 2009, 09:38:51 PM »
I've heard of callmakers microwaving pot calls to take em apart and see how they are inside. I've heard of callmakers x-raying calls too. Thats just what they admit to doing on a public forum. Maybe I'm missing something but that is just as bad maybe worse than what the bold idiot tried to do.

i didn't realize that many folks had x-ray machines laying around. 

wisturkeyhunter

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Re: A CAll To Arms!!!!
« Reply #61 on: September 29, 2009, 09:46:07 PM »
I've heard of callmakers microwaving pot calls to take em apart and see how they are inside. I've heard of callmakers x-raying calls too. Thats just what they admit to doing on a public forum. Maybe I'm missing something but that is just as bad maybe worse than what the bold idiot tried to do.

i didn't realize that many folks had x-ray machines laying around. 
I've heard that its been done. From more than one person. Lets pretend for a second that it hasn't happened. What about guys using microwaves to disassemble a pot? Is it wrong? Is it any different than the bozo that emailed Larry. He was honest even if he was totally wrong in doing so. I certainly a call to arms might be needed but this guy dosen't have a monopoly on knocking off calls.

ronmexico

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Re: A CAll To Arms!!!!
« Reply #62 on: September 29, 2009, 09:55:34 PM »
I've heard of callmakers microwaving pot calls to take em apart and see how they are inside. I've heard of callmakers x-raying calls too. Thats just what they admit to doing on a public forum. Maybe I'm missing something but that is just as bad maybe worse than what the bold idiot tried to do.

i didn't realize that many folks had x-ray machines laying around. 
I've heard that its been done. From more than one person. Lets pretend for a second that it hasn't happened. What about guys using microwaves to disassemble a pot? Is it wrong? Is it any different than the bozo that emailed Larry. He was honest even if he was totally wrong in doing so. I certainly a call to arms might be needed but this guy dosen't have a monopoly on knocking off calls.

not sure how being honest about stealing is admirable.  i'm sure people copy the guts of the calls all the time and i'm certainly not saying it's right, but for someone to be so stupid to admit it, on an email, is beyond comprehension.  as for the guy being honest to larry, i think he was trying to strong arm him and basically say, give me what i want or i will copy your call.  either way, the guy is a punk in my book and looks like a fool because of it.


wisturkeyhunter

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Re: A CAll To Arms!!!!
« Reply #63 on: September 29, 2009, 10:08:58 PM »
Don't think I said anything about being admirable you shouldn't read into stuff anymore than what I typed. No I'm not excusing what the guy did or saying he was right either. If you guys want to clean the callmaking world up I wouldn't stop at this guy or even start on him cause he's far from the worse. Just look around. Thats my only point. Punk, fool, and stupid certainly do fit them emails I do agree with that.

ronmexico

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Re: A CAll To Arms!!!!
« Reply #64 on: September 29, 2009, 10:12:26 PM »
Don't think I said anything about being admirable you shouldn't read into stuff anymore than what I typed. No I'm not excusing what the guy did or saying he was right either. If you guys want to clean the callmaking world up I wouldn't stop at this guy or even start on him cause he's far from the worse. Just look around. Thats my only point. Punk, fool, and stupid certainly do fit them emails I do agree with that.

my bad, i just didn't see how it was relevant that the guy was being honest when he said he was going to copy the call.  honest, or dishonest, it's wrong.  we can agree on that. *cheers*

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Re: A CAll To Arms!!!!
« Reply #65 on: September 30, 2009, 05:37:58 AM »
So is there a differents in say a spin off and coping a call.  If so were is the line drawn?  I think we all copy something in our daily lives and in this case turkey calls is no exception. I don't see there being any new designs on a pot call coming out. 

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Re: A CAll To Arms!!!!
« Reply #66 on: September 30, 2009, 07:06:07 AM »
So is there a differents in say a spin off and coping a call.  If so were is the line drawn?  I think we all copy something in our daily lives and in this case turkey calls is no exception. I don't see there being any new designs on a pot call coming out. 


i take it you haven't met the "king"......... :-\
iz it really a turkey kall....if it doezn't sound like a turkey?

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« Reply #67 on: September 30, 2009, 07:51:18 AM »
 ROTFLMBO  ROTFLMBO  ROTFLMBO  ROTFLMBO

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Re: A CAll To Arms!!!!
« Reply #68 on: September 30, 2009, 10:48:58 AM »
I have been following this post, watched it go from the specific to the general then back and forth.  It all revolves around the intent to deceive.  Is it the intent of a call maker to copy another and deceive the public into believing the design is his?  That's what must be proven.

If someone said " If I could do it the way you do it, I would do it that way!" and he did it.  That's' intent.  Now how about he gave you credit for the idea.  Now what?

When two call makers come up with the same idea independently and make calls using it.  Is one going to stop?  It would be ludicrous for one to do so.  Does each have to prove it was their original idea? 

How about the x-ray issue.  Museums do it all the time to learn history so they can make replicas and not destroy the originals.  Same deal for calls.  I don't think we want to cut up or clean an old yelper stuffed with cobwebs.   We would never know that the infamous "Clucker" had hand chased threads or even came apart at one time, if a dentist had not volunteered his high tech machine to peer inside.   What was the intent?

Remember intent to deceive must be proven.   Is it worth it?  Do you have the resources to do it and make the other guy stop or pay up?   

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Re: A CAll To Arms!!!!
« Reply #69 on: October 01, 2009, 09:41:00 PM »
So is there a differents in say a spin off and coping a call.  If so were is the line drawn?  I think we all copy something in our daily lives and in this case turkey calls is no exception. I don't see there being any new designs on a pot call coming out. 


i take it you haven't met the "king"......... :-\

That was cold. Funny...... But cold.

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Re: A CAll To Arms!!!!
« Reply #70 on: October 02, 2009, 07:27:09 AM »
If there is someone to come up with some totally new pot call  *wha*

THEN   

"Kang is the man"   *up*

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wisturkeyhunter

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Re: A CAll To Arms!!!!
« Reply #71 on: October 06, 2009, 08:47:34 AM »
I have been following this post, watched it go from the specific to the general then back and forth.  It all revolves around the intent to deceive.  Is it the intent of a call maker to copy another and deceive the public into believing the design is his?  That's what must be proven.

If someone said " If I could do it the way you do it, I would do it that way!" and he did it.  That's' intent.  Now how about he gave you credit for the idea.  Now what?

When two call makers come up with the same idea independently and make calls using it.  Is one going to stop?  It would be ludicrous for one to do so.  Does each have to prove it was their original idea? 

How about the x-ray issue.  Museums do it all the time to learn history so they can make replicas and not destroy the originals.  Same deal for calls.  I don't think we want to cut up or clean an old yelper stuffed with cobwebs.   We would never know that the infamous "Clucker" had hand chased threads or even came apart at one time, if a dentist had not volunteered his high tech machine to peer inside.   What was the intent?

Remember intent to deceive must be proven.   Is it worth it?  Do you have the resources to do it and make the other guy stop or pay up?   

The Geezer

So if someone isn't as bold and obvious when they try to copy its alright. Thats how your post reads.

ronmexico

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Re: A CAll To Arms!!!!
« Reply #72 on: October 06, 2009, 09:20:57 AM »

So if someone isn't as bold and obvious when they try to copy its alright. Thats how your post reads.

the way i read it is that if there is intent to deceive, then it is wrong.  and if two people come up with the same idea independently, then who is to say which person came up with the idea. 

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Re: A CAll To Arms!!!!
« Reply #73 on: November 13, 2009, 10:11:21 AM »
This is an older post but I just read it now.....what happened? What am I looking for?, Jeff
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