A CAll To Arms!!!!

[Porter]

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Same here!!!  If that guy happens to stumble upon this site.. let me know...  I may let Larry do the  personally!!!

It's one thing to make an honest mistake and not know someone has been doing this already, but that just really irks me the more I read it!!

[SS Custom Calls]

 Man, hate to see this bull  !!  Hit's pretty close to home. Larry's a good guy and respects people.. He deserves the same!!! The other guy, well, nuf said!!! Maybe it's time to give him the avirostick treatment!! 

[longbeardfever4ever]

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[turkey stew]

These fools NEVER get it!!!! They can care less. Everyone email their callmaking friends and turkey call customers, spread the word, and boycott this scumbag copycat!!!!!!!!

[Shadowturkeycaller]

Holy 


What an idiot!!!

I shot him an email

[Porter]

Anyone get any response?

I sure haven't...

[BigTomsCalls]

No reply yet!!! I sent him another E-mail telling him until he gives Larry an appology we will not go away!!! Dirt Bag!!!

[J R Hunt Camp]

... Larry Gresser is a great callmaker & fine person - he, like many others, doesn't deserve this kind of disrespect from anyone; let alone from some design thievin' no-name punk "wanna-be" ...
Not a shot that I; for one; will ever buy a call from this pathetic "design copy-cat" hack - when I want a Larry Gresser caller, I get mine from Larry himself ...

[Ghost Maker Calls]

I can't believe the stones this guy has............unreal.  Regardless of whether it was Larry or not that level of disregard for another person has weasled it's way into just about everywhere in our society.  Hurrah for me and **** you attitudes make me sick.  It's just bad that it did happen to a good guy like Larry.

[ronmexico]

when I want a Larry Gresser caller, I get mine from Larry himself[/b] ...

absolutely.

[wiltznucs]

Bear with me while I play the Devil's Advocate here.  I by no means condone what has happened, I've met Larry and he is a good guy and I hate that he got sucked into this.  But from a historical perspective, there hasnt been a truly innovative friction turkey call design in decades.  The same DD Adam's design in use for over 40 years remains the industry standard.  Round surface, round pot, tone board, and striker.  No matter how you change your selection in materials, widths, or thicknesses... in the end your still copying the original Adam's design.  Just as most box call makers are copying Lynch and most trumpet makers are copying Turpin.  So I ask you pot call makers, how are you any different than our friend from Vermont?  Are you not copying an existing design?  Most of you buy your materials from a handful of makers and I'd be willing to bet that the difference between the majority of calls is measured in micrometers.  The truth is that while a call may be custom made, its design is by no means original.  

I also wonder why there is such a gutteral reaction to this incident when there are countless other makers who's designs have been adulterated without so much as a blink of an eye?

Heck, there is at least one member of this site who's put together a pretty good collection simply sending other peoples calls to makers for them to copy.  Once the copier is done taking notes and goofing up the call this bozo trades the call to a new up and coming maker.  Wheres the outcry against him?

One thing is certain, ol' boy from Vermont isnt very bright.  If the emails are any indication of how he plans to run his business and handle his customers he'll be out of business in no time.

[ronmexico]

Bear with me while I play the Devil's Advocate here.  I by no means condone what has happened, I've met Larry and he is a good guy and I hate that he got sucked into this.  But from a historical perspective, there hasnt been a truly innovative friction turkey call design in decades.  The same DD Adam's design in use for over 40 years remains the industry standard.  Round surface, round pot, tone board, and striker.  No matter how you change your selection in materials, widths, or thicknesses... in the end your still copying the original Adam's design.  Just as most box call makers are copying Lynch and most trumpet makers are copying Turpin.  So I ask you pot call makers, how are you any different than our friend from Vermont?  Are you not copying an existing design?  Most of you buy your materials from a handful of makers and I'd be willing to bet that the difference between the majority of calls is measured in micrometers.  The truth is that while a call may be custom made, its design is by no means original.  

I also wonder why there is such a gutteral reaction to this incident when there are countless other makers who's designs have been adulterated without so much as a blink of an eye?

Heck, there is at least one member of this site who's put together a pretty good collection simply sending other peoples calls to makers for them to copy.  Wheres the outcry against him?

One thing is certain, ol' boy from Vermont isnt very bright.  If the emails are any indication of how he plans to run his business and handle his customers he'll be out of business in no time.

i agree with what you are saying about how similar many pot calls are.  there are only so many things you can do to put your stamp on them.  that being said, my problem has to do more with the audacity of the guy from vermont, to tell larry that he has no control over him using his specs.  i am sure a lot of call makers have broken down a call to check out the internals of some calls and then tweaked them to make them a little different.  i'm not saying it's right, but i am sure it happens.  however, i don't know of many folks who throw it in the face of the call maker they are "borrowing" a design from. 

the guy in question here is an idiot.  if you are going to use the same specs of another call maker, how could you be so stupid to put it in an email?  great call makers earn respect, based on their own hard work.  this clown is looking to skip the learning curve and then boast about it.  i'm sure this guy will probably sell some calls on the internet to some unsuspecting folks, but i'm glad it is at least out in the open. 

there are a couple of reasons i buy calls from people.  part of it has to do with sound and quality and part of it has to do with the integrity of the person i am purchasing a call from.  if 1 of those components is missing, i will not buy a call from that individual, regardless of who it is, or what their reputation (on sound alone) is.

[strutnrut]

I normally stay out of these type of post because,  people get so firedup over their freind being screwed with but like Wiltznucs stated  a round call is a round call.  Now most of us try to set their calls apart from other in little way like hole design but when all of the layers are peeled away it still just a round call.  You can change striker design but it's still a stick.  The only thing I can do that you can't do to your calls is sign my name and I don't do that very often.  Most people by pot calls for hunting not collecting now does all of this mean that this other guy is right?  No, they should build there own call but you do have to admit he's has big balls to call another callmaker and tell him that he's going to use his calls as his own.    Do beleive in this case my Red Neck'ism would kick in.  

[BigTomsCalls]

I'll have to disagree to some extent. To say a round call is just a round call is like saying a box call is just a box call, or a trumpet call is just a trumpet call, or a wing bone call is just a wing bone call, or well you get the idea. Not all calls are created equal!!! Some guy's are better at making certain types of calls. Larry made what this guy thought was an exceptional sounding call and has plains on "COPYING" that call. Granted all calls may be "SIMULAR" to other makers calls, but the same absolutly not!!!

[Bulldogmikey]

OK Here goes, When Adam started wanting to learn turning pots he only had one persons pot. The short version. I contacted Wendell Rye (whom both the boys met in Atlanta and each one bought a pot. At the time the intention was due my health we were gonna try and turn 2 pots together for him and Scott. Wendell send me a blank pot (yes he did) and some different surface materials and sound boards. I promised Wendell and Adam didn't want to copy him. We checked all of Wendell's dimensions and started. He turned a three inch pot like Wendell's 3 1/2 to get the idea. Then he just started free thinking. He wanted something that fit the hand well for the hunter. Something that looked good. and of course something that sounds good.He has turned about 25-30 pots so far, he has decided on his style and the internals are similar (as are everyone else's) but still quite different. Each type surface and each type wood require a little different "internals". Anyone, and you can ask any good pot maker, that turns GOOD sounding pots will tell you that no two are "exactly" the same. It comes down to ethics. I told Wendell we would not copy his pot. We didn't. Nor would we knowingly copy anyones. To me the guy shows no moral ethical character. No respect for himself or Larry. And a problem with our society as a whole making a buck off someone else's work. If you get a pot from Adam you get a piece of him. And with it a friend that will do anything in the world to make sure you are satisfied. This is true. If someone calls about who builds a good pot  I take them through about 10 names and never mention Adam's. There are people on here who can confirm that. I contacted Al Shoemaker about a couple of boxes and for some reason (God) we hit it off and I soon found out this was a man of integrity that makes a great call. Then I had to endure the frustration watching him go through thee same thing with a guy on eBay. Let the left wing democrat in Vermont copy Larry and guaranteed he will fall flat of his tush on a hard surface! I think there are many fine call makers. I wish i could buy from everyone, but I can't. But I can buy what I buy from a lot of men with character and ethics. And CALL THEM FRIEND! We do have other call makers  pots now, and will have others. But Adam has my attention with his passion and hard work. And a good call to boot. And by the way, anyone that thinks one internal design will sound the same on all woods has lost their minds. Wood has a mind of it's own so to speak. It is something special to turn a pot or cut and assemble a box and have it talk Turkey to you. So as a preacher should say. May God deal decisively with the man in VT, And May Larry Gresser Prosper because of it !

Mike