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Title: A question about mineral stained poplar
Post by: PA Boxcall on February 04, 2011, 02:56:12 PM
Dumb question time:

What makes mineral stained poplar that color -- is it the same principle as mud cured osage?
Title: Re: A question about mineral stained poplar
Post by: SS Custom Calls on February 04, 2011, 03:00:43 PM
 From my understanding, the main reason is from a mineral deficiency in the soil.. Another thing I've seen is damage to a tree will sometimes cause darker wood in poplar, but not throughout the tree.
Title: Re: A question about mineral stained poplar
Post by: GR8CALLS on February 04, 2011, 03:05:12 PM
Poplar and Ash (Live trees) have the ability to absorb minerals from the ground, causing the dark color. This is usually associated w/ the heart wood in both species. Unlike mude cured Osage, which color, is seen in fence posts rather than the live tree.

Bill
Title: Re: A question about mineral stained poplar
Post by: SS Custom Calls on February 04, 2011, 03:09:04 PM
 So, it's actually not a lack of minerals, it's the trees ability to absorb the minerals.? Pretty cool, learn something new every day.  *cheers*  Thanks for the explanation Bill. 
Title: Re: A question about mineral stained poplar
Post by: Bulldogmikey on February 04, 2011, 03:11:29 PM
Also the closer poplar grows to wet soil with a high mineral content the heart will absorb the minerals and be variouis colors. Hard to find in specific colors. I have a batch and you really don't know till you cut the blank what the actual color is.

Mike
Title: Re: A question about mineral stained poplar
Post by: GR8CALLS on February 04, 2011, 03:37:54 PM
Mike

.........what you say is a factor, but (in my area) we see it no matter the the location. I hade a bout 200,000 BF of Ash and Poplar cut off my place 20 years ago and all of it had dark hearts. When I ask the forester why, he explained that it has more to do w/ the types of mineras in the soil, than where it was harvested.

Bill
Title: Re: A question about mineral stained poplar
Post by: jmck on February 04, 2011, 04:24:04 PM
some of that stuff shure can be perdy !!!!
Title: Re: A question about mineral stained poplar
Post by: West Augusta on February 04, 2011, 06:02:59 PM
I like it. ;D
Title: Re: A question about mineral stained poplar
Post by: PA Boxcall on February 05, 2011, 12:46:49 PM
some of that stuff shure can be perdy !!!!

Sure can, and that's why I asked.  Thanks for the explanations.   *cool*
Title: Re: A question about mineral stained poplar
Post by: longbeard48 on February 05, 2011, 01:45:14 PM
+1 on Bill's answer.

I have friends in the woodcutting business who I used to ask to watch for green mineralized poplar.  They would bring me logs and I would pay them and then pay to have them sawed up only to find that I had maybe a foot of green near the stump and plain old yellow poplar the rest of the way.  That got expensive.  Now I spend my time (my wife says way too much) at a furniture plant scrap wood pile looking for odds and ends.  I probably look through 20 semi loads of scrap wood each year!  The good part about that is that all their wood is kiln dried and planed.  Right now I have enough purple poplar for two calls and I am about halfway through building them.  The color is different, for sure, but I am worried about the sound because the wood feels extra light, even for poplar.  Trouble is, you never know what kind of sound you are going to get until you finish the call!  Rainbow poplar is pretty, but you would have to use it in big projects in order for it to be appreciated. Every now and then I get my hands on some small pieces of black poplar, too, enough to a scratch boxes.  Maybe later I can post pictures of a black/green poplar call that I made this year.
Title: Re: A question about mineral stained poplar
Post by: bowrebel on February 07, 2011, 04:02:32 PM
You should see the purple/blue poplar we use as dunnage. Man is it beautiful. I send hundreds of them out the door each week strapped to a bundle just to be torn apart by lift trucks.  *cry*

James
Title: Re: A question about mineral stained poplar
Post by: Bulldogmikey on February 07, 2011, 05:06:42 PM
You should see the purple/blue poplar we use as dunnage. Man is it beautiful. I send hundreds of them out the door each week strapped to a bundle just to be torn apart by lift trucks.  *cry*

James

People will not use the syuff outside calls except for pallets usually!