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Turkey Call Paradise => From the Callmaker's Bench => Topic started by: rocfish13 on September 16, 2010, 02:41:49 PM

Title: walnut and cadar long box
Post by: rocfish13 on September 16, 2010, 02:41:49 PM
Here is a long box I sold on ebay. Roc
Title: Re: walnut and cadar long box
Post by: turkey stew on September 16, 2010, 04:18:39 PM
Cool looking woods! How does she run?
Title: Re: walnut and cadar long box
Post by: Bulldogmikey on September 16, 2010, 04:41:40 PM
That wood is something! Is that a yellow (foam or rubber) washer? How does that work Gary! Beautiful call!

Mike
Title: Re: walnut and cadar long box
Post by: rocfish13 on September 16, 2010, 05:33:59 PM
That is a cut piece of construction safety earplug. It is very duriable. It gives the box a sweeter and smoother front end, but still keeping a good break. To tell you the truth, it sounded all right. I think with the inconistences in the wood of both the walnut and cedar(especially the white wood in the lid) hurt the sound quality. I am sure it would call a turkey up, in the right situation. Thanks! Roc
Title: Re: walnut and cadar long box
Post by: Ferguson on September 16, 2010, 07:52:48 PM
 *cool*
Title: Re: walnut and cadar long box
Post by: M Sharpe on September 16, 2010, 07:55:13 PM
I was wondering how that burl worked for you on those boxes.
Good looking wood though.


Mark
Title: Re: walnut and cadar long box
Post by: Porter on September 16, 2010, 08:30:34 PM
Nice looking caller.  That's some beautiful burl!
Title: Re: walnut and cadar long box
Post by: rocfish13 on September 17, 2010, 05:42:34 AM
Mr. Sharpe, usually I can't get the sound quality I would like out of these burls, but it still didn't sound too bad. Also, all that white wood in the lid didn't help. Sometimes these burls will surprise you. Like the last maple burl box I made, it sounded real good. I was surprised for sure. Can't remember who I got this walnut from, should have got a truck load. Talk to you later. Roc
Title: Re: walnut and cadar long box
Post by: LH on September 17, 2010, 10:03:19 AM
You do some good work nice.
Title: Re: walnut and cadar long box
Post by: SS Custom Calls on September 17, 2010, 10:16:50 AM
Nice caller!!  That burl is hard on the nerves to try to tune!   *cry* Keep up the good work.

Al
Title: Re: walnut and cadar long box
Post by: letinmfly on September 17, 2010, 10:24:41 AM
That is a cut piece of construction safety earplug. It is very duriable. It gives the box a sweeter and smoother front end, but still keeping a good break. To tell you the truth, it sounded all right. I think with the inconistences in the wood of both the walnut and cedar(especially the white wood in the lid) hurt the sound quality. I am sure it would call a turkey up, in the right situation. Thanks! Roc

That's a real disparaging post you made there considering that you are the callmaker.  We know that burls are not the best choice for making boxcalls because of the inconsistency in the sound but they do make for a pretty call.  We also know that sometimes pretty calls don't always call in birds.  I feel that you did yourself and the buyer of that call a misjustice by selling it.  You knew that it didn't sound good and yet you chose to sell it.  
Hopefully for your sake the buyer doesn't know much about what a good turkey call should sound like.  If he does your rep has been hurt considerably.

I am sure it would call a turkey up, in the right situation. Thanks! Roc

The above line is especially disconcerning in that you would have that kind of mentality.  We all know that just about any call will call up a turkey in the right situation but I wouldn't wnat one of your calls because of your thinking.  I can't wait for all the planets and the stars to line up correctly to have a particular call work on that given day.  
I have to say that you are on the wrong path to become a good callmaker...your post seems to solidify my comment.

I guess the bottom line is...why would you send out a call that you know doesn't sound good?  *wha*
Before you/anyone else gets upset with my post, I'm just trying to figure out why something like this would happen and it also goes back to an earlier thread on publicly critiquing calls.  I feel that it is fair for me to comment and ask questions due to the fact that the call was critiqued by the callmaker himself.

Title: Re: walnut and cadar long box
Post by: ronmexico on September 17, 2010, 11:06:01 AM
i concur.  letinemfly raises a very valid point here.  why would you sell something that isn't up to snuff?  in the end, it's your reputation that is on the line, so you can do as you choose.   but if it were me, that call would not have left the shop if it only sounded "alright".
Title: Re: walnut and cadar long box
Post by: rocfish13 on September 17, 2010, 12:04:25 PM
In my reference to the right situation, that was more of a joke. I never said my call sounded bad. I have trashed many a call, one just like that one, because they didn't sound up to my standards. Also, that call was made more for a decorative call and not a hunting call. Also, I explained my point to the buyer, about the call and it's sound before and again after he bought it. When he got it, he said he didn't know why I  was worried about the call. He said he would hunt with it, but it was too pretty. He said most of the calls he had weren't even close to the sound of that call. I have never had anybody complain about my calls.  I then sold him one of my shorty hunting boxes, and he really loved that. That is the last thing I would do, and ruin my rep. And for you not buying any of my calls, I really don't care. You don't put food on my table and I sure eat good. Why do you have to be so critical of people and things when you don't even know the whole story? Take a chill pill,Jack!!! Roc PS- I guess everyone of your calls could win the world calling championship.
Title: Re: walnut and cadar long box
Post by: letinmfly on September 17, 2010, 12:24:53 PM
Roc.

I'm very chilled.  My comments are based on your post and if there's more to the story maybe you should have posted it.
My comments weren't a critique of your call, YOU did that!!  I'm not a callmaker but if I were my calls would be the best that they possibly could be in respect to my talent, as I'm sure yours are.
Perhaps you should show more diligence in your posts and word them more carefully because I'm not the only one that thought what I said.  Also being new on here you might want the members on here to get to know you a bit better before making posts like you just did on here.  We don't know if you were joking but I have to believe that you weren't or you wouldn't have said what you did about the call.

Just remember my comments are based on what you posted!!
Title: Re: walnut and cadar long box
Post by: rocfish13 on September 17, 2010, 12:39:52 PM
Well all I can say to you, is put your money where your mouth is, and start making calls yourself. I am sure all your calls would sound so good, they would call a frozen turkey out of a Foodlion. Roc PS - I can't help it if you don't have a sense of humor. Also, the way I am taking it ,you are calling me a liar. Roc
Title: Re: walnut and cadar long box
Post by: ronmexico on September 17, 2010, 12:52:42 PM
Why do you have to be so critical of people and things when you don't even know the whole story?

you left it open for interpretation.  nobody was being critical of your calls, as none of us heard it.  you said that the sound was "alright" and would probably kill a bird in the "right situation".


settle down, roc.
Title: Re: walnut and cadar long box
Post by: rocfish13 on September 17, 2010, 01:17:25 PM
I am not pissed!! But, think about it , I could have said it sounded great, and you wouldn't have known the difference. But, I consider myself as an honest person. I am sorry that I misled letmfly and anybody else. I was just trying to be honest. I would never sell a call that I wouldn't hunt with myself. I am also told, that I have a short fuse, I have been working on that. I am a journeyman pipefitter, and in the construction trade, if you say something, you better be ready to back it up. Please forgive me if I offended anyone.  Roc :grouphug: :grouphug:
Title: Re: walnut and cadar long box
Post by: ronmexico on September 17, 2010, 01:19:55 PM
10-4.  i wasn't offended, just trying to help out.  if the sound isn't exactly what you want it to be and the person buying isn't going to hunt with it, no problem.  but, you could of avoided some confusion by mentioning that in the first post, that's all.
Title: Re: walnut and cadar long box
Post by: letinmfly on September 17, 2010, 01:24:52 PM
Roc.

You didn't offend me.  I just wish that you would have read my initial post with the right attitude.  My post was made to help you with your choices in making and selling calls.  I'm not sure how long you've been selling calls but just know that one bad call sent out will hurt your rep more than the 100 good ones will help your rep.  Seems like the public hears more about the bad ONE rather than the good ones. Good luck in your callmaking!!!

I'm glad cooler heads prevailed.  *cheers*
Title: Re: walnut and cadar long box
Post by: rocfish13 on September 17, 2010, 02:01:29 PM
Gentlemen,  I will take your advice to heart!! Sorry, kind of new to forums!! Thanks, Roc  *up* *up*
Title: Re: walnut and cadar long box
Post by: HelsbysCustomCalls on October 15, 2010, 08:09:17 PM
 That's a beauty right there Gary!!! Nicely done!!!!  *up*