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Turkey Call Paradise => From the Callmaker's Bench => Topic started by: Southern Spur on September 01, 2010, 07:02:35 PM

Title: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: Southern Spur on September 01, 2010, 07:02:35 PM
The Latest from the Spur Shop. The Bell is a bit slimmer, than I wanted, Tool caught it, and had to slim the Outer diameter a bit, the Bell will be a bit more Pronounced, this is the first One in this Design, I will call them the  DINNER BELL.  All comments, Opinions, Greatly appreciated.  8)  ;D


(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm317/Longbeardhunter/SouthernSpurDINNERBELL008.jpg)


(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm317/Longbeardhunter/SouthernSpurDINNERBELL009.jpg)


(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm317/Longbeardhunter/SouthernSpurDINNERBELL005-1.jpg)


(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm317/Longbeardhunter/SouthernSpurDINNERBELL014-1.jpg)


Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA
Post by: turkey stew on September 01, 2010, 07:09:27 PM
Sharp looking trumpet! *dance* How does she run?
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA
Post by: muddpuppi on September 01, 2010, 07:34:03 PM
Spur i think the design looks fine to me and think it will even look better with the more pronouced bell... *up*
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA
Post by: Bulldogmikey on September 01, 2010, 08:05:33 PM
Very nice Jeff, heard my first Spur trumpet this week.

Mike
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA
Post by: KPcalls on September 01, 2010, 08:27:19 PM
I see a few that need to comment. I am not building these for any other reason, than Passion for the GAME. That is it. If you want a Hunting call, that will KILL TURKEYS, this Call will do it, all day, everyday. This to me is a Tool, for Killing Turkeys, and that is it. I will not enter contest's, I could give a darn. I want them in the field, Killing Birds. There are a LOT of Great call makers out there, making  Great calls. All, will kill birds. This, is One of them, a Very good, Hunting call. If you run one, it will be on your neck come season. Plenty of Great trumpet builders, I am not comparing these to any others, it is just a Hunting call, and a darn good one. I have had my fill of the Politics in this Game, Just want to build calls and have them hunted with success, these will do just that. I no longer care what is said, I truly do not. Just want to build calls, and Turkey hunt. Have a great day, hope Ya'll like her.


 Calm down Spur....... :-\  It will be OK.....I'm commenting because this post is to funny not too.... ROTFLMBO.    As usual you start out with your self praising BS... You did buy the digital voice recorder you been swearing to buy to record your calls, but the only thing you recorded was someome else's box call.......... Get over yourself, and stop whinning....... ;D
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA
Post by: Gobbleking57 on September 01, 2010, 08:59:04 PM
Hey, if it will kill turkeys I got to have one....thats all that matters to me....I've seen 5 or 6 different trumpet makers I thought built really great looking trumpets....politics be da..ed I don't care who built it if it gets the job done.Kudos to you Spur for trying to satisfy the masses but just do what feels good to you and enjoy your hobby..... *cool*
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA
Post by: Turkeybuster on September 01, 2010, 09:08:37 PM
Looks like a hunter to me nice job Jeff.
Jon   *up*
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA
Post by: mmclain on September 01, 2010, 09:15:56 PM
like the shape of the stem........

loose the lump.......reminds me of a blue heron that swallowed a large frog.......and got stuck in the middle.....

matt

Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA
Post by: KPcalls on September 01, 2010, 09:18:28 PM
Hey, if it will kill turkeys I got to have one....thats all that matters to me....I've seen 5 or 6 different trumpet makers I thought built really great looking trumpets....politics be da..ed I don't care who built it if it gets the job done.Kudos to you Spur for trying to satisfy the masses but just do what feels good to you and enjoy your hobby..... *cool*


 Kang, What the hail you talking about...........


"Kudos to you Spur for trying to satisfy the masses "...... the last version was a pizz poor attempt of a cOx knock off....I bet ole cOx got a good laugh at that one..... ROTFLMBO  
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA
Post by: KPcalls on September 01, 2010, 09:39:30 PM
 Kang,  Spur could send you a trumpet, and you could do a sound file for him....... ;D
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA
Post by: JLCcalls on September 01, 2010, 09:58:54 PM
Looks good to me spur!   I like the way the colors jump in that 2nd and last pic.  Great job my friend.
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA
Post by: Shadetree Callers on September 01, 2010, 11:05:06 PM
Very nice caller !!
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA
Post by: mmclain on September 01, 2010, 11:07:29 PM
Matt, If i lose the Hump, will just start more  .

I dont really like it, and will change as I progress on the Lathe. I will be makeing Many styles of diff calls, all Trumpets.


sounds like your going to change it.......
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA
Post by: Porter on September 02, 2010, 06:15:39 AM
Spur I think you are going down the right path!  I need to look at it for awhile to say if I really like the hump or not, but as long as it plays...  that's all I would carry about.

Hopefully this will stop a lot of your drama on your callers!
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA
Post by: BigTomsCalls on September 02, 2010, 07:56:37 AM
Jeff loose the hump!!! As far as the drama go's there is only so much you can do with the looks of a trumpet. I myself like nice clean lines!!! I know that this can be hard to achieve without people saying that your are copying anothers design. There is one guy that says all trumpets are copy's of his!! *wha*
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA
Post by: Dcoleinpa on September 02, 2010, 08:20:21 AM
work in progress. you'll find it. all ya can do is keep on turning right??!!
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: Gobbleking57 on September 02, 2010, 08:52:48 AM
I say build your trumpets in any design you choose and be happy, just like the pot call makers and box call makers do... ;)
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: ncturkey on September 02, 2010, 07:07:41 PM
I like the first design better. Just loose the knot. Unless the bigger bell is need for the sound. If it sounds great I would not care what it looks like. A soft easy to call on your is a good thing. keep them coming.
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: KPcalls on September 02, 2010, 07:55:55 PM
 Spur,  I never said your call didn't sound good, are anything  negative about the looks. I never would say anything negative about yours and anyone else's calls. I just have grown tired of you tooting your own horn............. if your going to talk shiiiit about the awesome sounding ....KILLERS.....you build, then you need to have the a....zz to back it up.............. ;D   
 So, The sound file you posted of  HMMMM's call wasen't your doing......then who did you post it for.... ::)  I do remember another wing bone sound file you did.....was that someone elses too..........Come clean Erb...tell us the truth, you can do it....it will make you feel better.....We are all friends here.... ;D

 As far as me copying AJ's call..........When I built my first wooden transition wing bones, the only thing I had seen out of AJ was his marine epoxy joints.....and I told him so....I did stop making those types of transitions after seeing some pics of his mastadon ivory transitions which was probablly done before mine.

 I build my wing bone calls now with a middle section of wood that I turn on my lathe......... :)  Would you like a pic..... 8)

 
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: KPcalls on September 02, 2010, 08:48:10 PM
"Cox did not Laugh Kenny, He SHUDDERED, as It was meant to be.. Bout like you, Now..".


 Erb,  I gotta admit, you did shake cOx up pretty dang good.......I heard from several folks from over on the sunny side that he was so mad that he banned half of them.  Thank God, that you and I had already been banned.  If not it would not have been pretty....... ROTFLMBO   ROTFLMBO  
 
 I did here from a couple over there that he was about to change his design since you had copied it..........   Word is, he was going to let Kang help in the design......... ;D  I'm just saying ...I hear thangs....  ;D


 I had to modify this post spurt,  just to add a couple/few of these that I forgot.................. *lol*  *lol*  *lol*
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: labman on September 02, 2010, 08:59:40 PM
COOL- your call has an Adam's Apple  RkLu
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: Daryl on September 02, 2010, 09:01:27 PM
Spur, just have fun and enjoy making them. I would lose the hump though. Not meant to offend, just my opinion. *up*
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: Ghost Maker Calls on September 03, 2010, 06:43:24 AM
Make em how you like, enjoy yourself doing it and kill some birds.  Good work Spur  *up*.
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: MKW on September 03, 2010, 07:42:32 AM
I would lose the bump also. And, I'm thinking I should raise my prices! ;D

Mike
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: M Sharpe on September 03, 2010, 07:49:09 AM
I would lose the bump also. And, I'm thinking I should raise my prices! ;D

Mike
Lose the bump..................pretty steep for someone just starting to turn trumpets. But then again, if it does everything from lost poult to gobbler
they may be worth that.
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: Shadetree Callers on September 03, 2010, 11:26:51 AM
Quote from Southern Spur...
I charge what I do, out of respect for those that came before., The price of Proven Trumpet Makers Price's, and the price of a good Quality Box call. They will go up, and they will be hunted.
[/quote]

 Hi guys ,
  Sorry to butt in on your disagreement , but I have to ask why you are charging so much and saying it's out of respect for past callmakers and the price of proven trumpetmakers prices.  The way I see it , the proven callmakers are the ones that should charge that price, not someone who is still in their learning curve. How does that show respect for someone... to charge what they charge because they have earned the reputation. Sorry that doesn't make sense. I can't charge as much as Neil Cost did , out of respect for him and the prices he set !!!
 And I wonder why you guys are so worked up about trumpets, after all fellas , they are all different versions of Tom Turpins original. Or did everyone forget who invented this call ???  In my personal opinion, the hump on this new trumpet looks a little bit like Steve Turpins Genie Bottle Trumpet. Just go to Turpincustomgamecalls and take a look. Steve Turpins calls are proven winners and that call sells for about $85.00  . I have some excellent trumpets by some real masters , that didn't cost as much as you are asking. Most were alot less.
 I don't mean any disrespect for you or your calls, I am just a little confused by your pricing and reasoning behind it . And the WHOLE trumpet controversy ! ????     Thanks for listening !  Keep up the good work Spur !
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: labman on September 03, 2010, 12:13:49 PM
If I'm going to pay $160 for a call, it better look better than that crooked stick.  For that price it better play, and look a dang sit better than what is being offered.
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: M Sharpe on September 03, 2010, 01:10:39 PM

 And I wonder why you guys are so worked up about trumpets, after all fellas , they are all different versions of Tom Turpins original. Or did everyone forget who invented this call ???  

Nope, but apparently some have forgotten!!!!!!
How many ways can one build a trumpet with out infringing on someone else? Who holds the market on them? What about box calls? Do they fall under a differant catagory?
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: labman on September 03, 2010, 03:31:27 PM
They must be charging you more for calls Spur  ;)

I've got calls from Hornstra, Permar, Cox, Buice, Sentell, McLain and Pedalahore.  2 of those 7 were right at $200, and 2 were a sight less than your $160.  In fact, Kenny's was a tank of gas for my Corolla less than you $160.  None of them used a compression fitting for a ferrule either.

That's twice now that you've said I was close with Frank- or insinuated that he has put me up to writing what I have.  I'm a little ashamed that you would think so.  Remember, I was a member of the Sunny Side at the same time you were.  I remember reading all of your posts pumping up Frank, or have you forgotten?
I've only commented because, like many others, I'm a little taken back with the thought that you deserve such a high price for your calls, considering the fact that the callmakers I listed above took years to get to the pricing they are at. 

As for the calls being crooked- that may have been harsh.  The hump does look lopsided on the purpleheart call though, as well as the base of the mouthpiece looks to have a definate slope.

But then again, what am I, except a potential customer?
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: M Sharpe on September 03, 2010, 04:31:52 PM
Spur, I don't know you nor do you know me; but, you are not doing your trumpet buisness any good with all this bickering back and forth. You have the right to sell your product at what ever price you choose. But, you don't have any out right now. No one to say, "man, I've got to have one of Southern Spurs trumpets". Go back and read all of your post with an objective mind and decide if you would buy a call from yourself. They may do every thing you say they will and that's good. I have several trumpets myself from well know callmakers and apparently I've been fortunate not to have to pay $200.00.

I tell you what, you lose the bump, send me one to play, if it whistles with a high kee, then has the ability to do gobbler yelps, I'll vouch for your calls.
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: callmakerman on September 03, 2010, 07:38:44 PM
Nice work but I have to agree with the others. Lose the hump.  Bill
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: KPcalls on September 03, 2010, 07:44:40 PM
Kenny, Just drop it. It was not so long ago, Mr. Cox was on yer Arse for a COPY of his design, lest we forget. Then again, all trumpets on earth, came from him, Right ??

It is quite apparent what you are doing here, a blind man that cant read can even see it.


I will, and shall continue to make these calls, in whatever design I choose. I never read in a book, they all had to be the same anyway.

If ya dont like me tooting, turn the page, that easy. I DO NOT PUT UP SOUNDFILES. I do not need to impress you, or anyone else. The Turkeys will die in the field using these calls. Thats all the Kudo's, I need.

If I did put a soundfile up, it would be more than a few Yelps, from 30 yrds away, It would be a series of calls, as if one was in the woods, but i will not.

The hunters can do the talking, as time goes by. Have a Nice Day Kenny, it'z all good..Spurt, you guys, bet ya a dime to a dollar, ya wont say that in front of me, Yeah,doubt that.


This is the drama factor I have mentioned, and is what is ruining the Forums. I try to be cool, and get people like you.

These calls are priced at $160.00 shipped. A bit more for Ivory. I can be reached here, or on CCO,  just leave a PM for me, and I will get one built for you, well appreciated, Jeff.




 Dang Spur, You wanted to by my call before you started making trumpet calls....and you told me 138.00 was crazy.... Why did you want my call Spur.... :-\
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: KPcalls on September 03, 2010, 07:46:39 PM
Quote from Southern Spur...
I charge what I do, out of respect for those that came before., The price of Proven Trumpet Makers Price's, and the price of a good Quality Box call. They will go up, and they will be hunted.

 Hi guys ,
  Sorry to butt in on your disagreement , but I have to ask why you are charging so much and saying it's out of respect for past callmakers and the price of proven trumpetmakers prices.  The way I see it , the proven callmakers are the ones that should charge that price, not someone who is still in their learning curve. How does that show respect for someone... to charge what they charge because they have earned the reputation. Sorry that doesn't make sense. I can't charge as much as Neil Cost did , out of respect for him and the prices he set !!!
 And I wonder why you guys are so worked up about trumpets, after all fellas , they are all different versions of Tom Turpins original. Or did everyone forget who invented this call ???  In my personal opinion, the hump on this new trumpet looks a little bit like Steve Turpins Genie Bottle Trumpet. Just go to Turpincustomgamecalls and take a look. Steve Turpins calls are proven winners and that call sells for about $85.00  . I have some excellent trumpets by some real masters , that didn't cost as much as you are asking. Most were alot less.
 I don't mean any disrespect for you or your calls, I am just a little confused by your pricing and reasoning behind it . And the WHOLE trumpet controversy ! ????     Thanks for listening !  Keep up the good work Spur !



My friend you are clueless............
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Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: KPcalls on September 03, 2010, 07:48:13 PM
Quote from Southern Spur...
I charge what I do, out of respect for those that came before., The price of Proven Trumpet Makers Price's, and the price of a good Quality Box call. They will go up, and they will be hunted.

 Hi guys ,
  Sorry to butt in on your disagreement , but I have to ask why you are charging so much and saying it's out of respect for past callmakers and the price of proven trumpetmakers prices.  The way I see it , the proven callmakers are the ones that should charge that price, not someone who is still in their learning curve. How does that show respect for someone... to charge what they charge because they have earned the reputation. Sorry that doesn't make sense. I can't charge as much as Neil Cost did , out of respect for him and the prices he set !!!
 And I wonder why you guys are so worked up about trumpets, after all fellas , they are all different versions of Tom Turpins original. Or did everyone forget who invented this call ???  In my personal opinion, the hump on this new trumpet looks a little bit like Steve Turpins Genie Bottle Trumpet. Just go to Turpincustomgamecalls and take a look. Steve Turpins calls are proven winners and that call sells for about $85.00  . I have some excellent trumpets by some real masters , that didn't cost as much as you are asking. Most were alot less.
 I don't mean any disrespect for you or your calls, I am just a little confused by your pricing and reasoning behind it . And the WHOLE trumpet controversy ! ????     Thanks for listening !  Keep up the good work Spur !



My friend you are clueless............
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My friend you are so clueless that you don't even deserve a comment.......... ;D
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: KPcalls on September 03, 2010, 07:57:21 PM
Kenny, Just drop it. It was not so long ago, Mr. Cox was on yer Arse for a COPY of his design, lest we forget. Then again, all trumpets on earth, came from him, Right ??

It is quite apparent what you are doing here, a blind man that cant read can even see it.


I will, and shall continue to make these calls, in whatever design I choose. I never read in a book, they all had to be the same anyway.

If ya dont like me tooting, turn the page, that easy. I DO NOT PUT UP SOUNDFILES. I do not need to impress you, or anyone else. The Turkeys will die in the field using these calls. Thats all the Kudo's, I need.

If I did put a soundfile up, it would be more than a few Yelps, from 30 yrds away, It would be a series of calls, as if one was in the woods, but i will not.

The hunters can do the talking, as time goes by. Have a Nice Day Kenny, it'z all good..Spurt, you guys, bet ya a dime to a dollar, ya wont say that in front of me, Yeah,doubt that.


This is the drama factor I have mentioned, and is what is ruining the Forums. I try to be cool, and get people like you.

These calls are priced at $160.00 shipped. A bit more for Ivory. I can be reached here, or on CCO,  just leave a PM for me, and I will get one built for you, well appreciated, Jeff.




Jeff, You are right.....I was rude for pointing out the fact that you are constantly tooting your own horn.....its your horn.... and by God if you want to toot your horn it's your  business and not mine.........I'm done, and all this should not have happened... ;D   
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: labman on September 03, 2010, 07:57:33 PM
This thread has been interesting for sure.  I learnt that if I don't make anything, I'm not allowed to comment, or complain about the price of it....



I guess next time Ford wants to charge me $50, 000 for a truck, I better just suck it up...
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: KPcalls on September 03, 2010, 08:10:41 PM
This thread has been interesting for sure.  I learnt that if I don't make anything, I'm not allowed to comment, or complain about the price of it....



I guess next time Ford wants to charge me $50, 000 for a truck, I better just suck it up...


It has.......... I missed a whole page before I got on here commenting tonight..... ;D   I guess,  I need to go back and read alot but.. :-\......I aint got the time.... Jason pay the money dang it............. ROTFLMBO    Gwen says hello.......... :)
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: MKW on September 03, 2010, 08:28:56 PM
How come Gwen hasn't said hello to me???? *cry*

Mike ;D
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: labman on September 03, 2010, 08:37:25 PM
Because I'm taller than you Mike  ROTFLMBO ROTFLMBO
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: MKW on September 03, 2010, 08:38:29 PM
Dangit...beat out by the tall guy, again!  ;D

Mike
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: KPcalls on September 03, 2010, 08:42:28 PM
Dangit...beat out by the tall guy, again!  ;D

Mike

 Gwen said hello Mike.........she's my spell check'r..... RkLu
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: mmclain on September 03, 2010, 09:17:59 PM
Once ran, you will forget all about Money, and be glad it is in your Hand, I Guarantee it.


PIMP, it aint tooting your HORN, if the call will back it up. Juz saying.
 
Labman.......this means if you play his call do so with extreme caution......you MAY NOT play hornstra's, cox's, mine or any other trumpets afterwards.....

naw' whut im' sayin'....bro.....this call is the shizz... fo' shizzle dizzle

 *lol*  spur your quote has me.....rotflmao.... *lol*
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: labman on September 03, 2010, 09:20:57 PM
That's right!!



I definately better not buy one.  The rest of my calls would just sit and gather dust  ROTFLMBO
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: Gobbleking57 on September 04, 2010, 12:53:52 AM
Spur, I go back and look at many of the other trumpet makers" posts and yours seem to instigate a minimum 30 more replies than all the others...Don't know what you are doing different but seems to be a great marketing strategy ;D
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: mmclain on September 04, 2010, 11:02:35 PM
you really have a bad memory............. ROTFLMBO

obviously you have no idea what you are talking about.........

and I have respect for someone elses intellectual property unlike yourself.....


Oh......and it was gunsmith........not machinist..........

Labman.......this means if you play his call do so with extreme caution......you MAY NOT play hornstra's, cox's, mine or any other trumpets afterwards.....

 ..........those are facetious remarks......
Title: Re: MACASSAR/ CAROBOA New Pics added.
Post by: Porter on September 05, 2010, 02:56:44 PM
Wow not sure I've ever seen as much tooting and bickering in my life.  Half way tempted to completely delete the thread, but then again.. it's kind of funny and embarrassing at the same time, but I've seen enough for the Holiday weekend  *up*

All this drama over a piece of wood...  Can we not all be friends  RkLu