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General Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dragonfly on April 30, 2010, 04:11:25 PM
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Its official... PA just past a new law that starting next year, 2011 spring season will have all day hunting!!!! First 2 weeks is till noon only as usual but the final 2 weeks PA hunters can hunt all day. Not sure if its a good thing or not but sure will be nice for those who can't hunt mornings.----Jason
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We have it here in Ontario... it's a good thing!!!! I take mine mostly in the afternoon after the hens are down on their eggs!
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Good for you guys!
Mike
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Jason
Virgina did this a couple years ago. Originally, we could only hunt a half day.....the reason, hunters would disturb the hens sitting! Hunters...disturbing the sitting hens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????? What, no predators in the woods all day...that could and would disturb the hens! What a laugh! Sometime it's difficult to get through to the egg heads in the game depts!
Bill
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Who would have thunk it! *up* *gobble*
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Can't wait for NY to do the same...doubt it will happen here though...dang politics of it all. >!!
Congrats for you PA hunters on the extension!!
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Jason
Virgina did this a couple years ago. Originally, we could only hunt a half day.....the reason, hunters would disturb the hens sitting! Hunters...disturbing the sitting hens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????? What, no predators in the woods all day...that could and would disturb the hens! What a laugh! Sometime it's difficult to get through to the egg heads in the game depts!
Bill
Excellent post.......I've got guys on the HuntingPA. forum screaming their heads off about the nesting problems caused by all day hunting.....Turkeys have predators , 24/7@365... We as hunters will be nothing more then a 4 week interuption in their lives...They really think, that so many more gobblers will be killed during those two weeks, that turkey hunting is headed for ruination.....Hens being run off the nests and not near enough gobblers left to mate the following spring.....Oh, hum...
Lets be real here about this.......Most of the good, polished, proficent, seasoned turkey hunters will already have their birds killed before the two week all day season ever hits...I don't know what percentage of hunters, we in PA LOSE thru lack of interest after the gobblers get quiet for a few days.....So how many guys left will be hunting all day?? One never knows, but the cool part of the all day deal is that when the kids, who still have an interest in killing a gobbler can hunt AFTER school...
Time will tell all concerning this matter for sure.....Zips
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i can`t wait
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I want Sunday hunting for ALL Big & Small Game in Pa.!!!!
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Mi use to have hunting until 3:00 pm until they extended it to all day! Many of us turkey hunters could only hunt on weekends before this change! It has`nt hurt anything! The best move the MI DNR did for the season! *gobble*
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Congrats to you.. I wish MO would enact this, but I doubt they ever will... There's always hope though!
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Hey Zips.....have the guys check out the HuntingPA forums.....wow, you would think this is the end of the world lol All the birds will be dead now next year.........I have to stop going to that site. OK good night boys, 3am comes early!
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Truth be known... rarely does/will a hunter bump a hen from their nest anyways... I know I have seldom done so. I suspect that our already highly pressured birds will really be closed mouth and even tougher to work to the gun. I also worry that every tom, dick and harry will be a self proclaimed turkey hunter with the added time alotted, thus leading to more ignorant & idiot hunters in the field.---Jason
P.S.- Hate to say it but, when it comes to regs, conservation and restoration, PA hunters are some of the most uneducated people around and have no clue what they are talking/arguing about half the time. By the way, I grew up and currently still live in PA for those who might get upset with my statement.
Zips, where are they grumbling at over there about the all day hunting, couldn't find it. I used to be a member there years back but left once I saw how stupid and ignorant some of them are there. Got tired of beating my head off the wall.
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Drag,
Turkey hunting forum under " New Rules for fy11, spring turkey."
Your statement about the PA. Hunters covers a vast majority of them....Sad, very sad, but very very true.... :-[ It amazes me how many so called "know it alls" we have in this state, that post their "worldly" knowledge about turkeys or anything else for that matter on that forum, that really don't know jack *poo* about turkeys and turkey hunting..... *wha* It's very entertaining to read..... :o
If PA. biologist thought, it would create a major problem with nesting hens, it would not have happened....The NWTF has alot of pull in the state.......Haven't read where they endorsed this change or not.. ??? Guess it doesn't matter at this point...
Enjoy your spring/fall seasons this year, because after next years spring.....turkeys in PA will be a thing of the past, just like the deer are.. ::)
A very Sad PA hunter ROTFLMBO
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Zumer
The NWTF can do some good things and then, just like in New Mexico, about 20 years ago, they can screw things up. NM, use to have a Fall season....that is untill the NWTF got involved. Same thing happened in South Carolina. Some times political intentions can get in the way of sound game management! *poo* *poo* *poo* *poo* *poo* *poo* *stu* *stu* *stu*
Bill
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Bill,
I learned something new today.......Thanks for sharing those items w/ me.......What would the reasoning be for removing the fall season other then a drop in the population? Did both of those states have fall turkey tags? What made up the lost revenue for both states, if there was fall tags involved???
Zumer
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Zumer
They both had a Fall season, so I assume there were tags involved. In the case of NM, I can only speak from personal knowlege of the area I hunted. There was no decline in the turkey population. Because turkeys move from higher elevations due to heavy snows, their thinking was that there were fewer turkeys....which wasn't true.
In SC, well just ask any one who hunts SC....there is no shortage of hen turkeys...!
Bill
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yes good for PA...............hopefully southern illinois will do the same in a few years............................i love to hunt in the afternoon................
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Zumer
They both had a Fall season, so I assume there were tags involved. In the case of NM, I can only speak from personal knowlege of the area I hunted. There was no decline in the turkey population. Because turkeys move from higher elevations due to heavy snows, their thinking was that there were fewer turkeys....which wasn't true.
In SC, well just ask any one who hunts SC....there is no shortage of hen turkeys...!
Bill
Maybe, the NWTF thought, they knew better then the game biologist, what was better for the respective population.......POLITICS ??????
Amazing how they can make things like that happen.....AMAZING!!
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Zumer
I think in both cases, the NWTF used the fact that deer season (and Elk in NM) was so long that hunters were using rifles to shoot turkeys in the Fall...and that wasn't sporting! Simple way to correct that problem is to shut deer season down for one week of turkey season and then just allow the deer season to run another week longer.
Bill
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Just reading through this post, still a little up in the air about the all day hunting idea, but it would allow me to get some more time in the woods after school. In my opinion, I think the best thing for Pa turkey hunting would be to go to a seperate tag similar to New York's system. We get soooo many "weekend warriors" or those guys who bought a licence for deer and say " yeah I'll go turkey hunting" and have absolutely no idea how to turkey hunt. It would really weed out some of the uneducated Pa hunters in the turkey woods.
Ed
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Just reading through this post, still a little up in the air about the all day hunting idea, but it would allow me to get some more time in the woods after school. In my opinion, I think the best thing for Pa turkey hunting would be to go to a seperate tag similar to New York's system. We get soooo many "weekend warriors" or those guys who bought a licence for deer and say " yeah I'll go turkey hunting" and have absolutely no idea how to turkey hunt. It would really weed out some of the uneducated Pa hunters in the turkey woods.
Ed
Very solid point, Ed......
That's one of the MAIN reason for me being a no-show on the first day of our season.......To many unethical, bad mannered, self centered, non-scouting, moral less knuckleheads stomping around blowing their X-mas gift crow and owl hooters at 9:00AM....Included with this mornings circus act was allot of people calling way to much and wayyyy to loud and riding their 4 wheelers all over the Lords creation......
I'd love to see the state of PA., go with a 25.00 fee to hunt spring and 25.00 fee for fall hunting....Creates revenue and would hopefully weed out the Weekend Warriors as you called them...
I'm sure, with all the folks out of work or layed off, that years spring season circus will last longer then normal....as it did last year... >!!
Zips