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General Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: strutnrut on July 02, 2013, 09:32:49 AM

Title: Ivory prices
Post by: strutnrut on July 02, 2013, 09:32:49 AM
This will more than likely cause the price of Ivory to increase. In my opinion you shouldn't kill an aminal just to get it's tusk or Ivory. What I don't understand is these governments could drop the bottom out of the ivory prices if they would turn loose of the stockpiles of ivory they hold. If ivory wasn't worth anything then poachers wouldn't be as likely to kill the Elephants. These test could cause some one to lose there Ivory. Think I may try and get some before any spike in the price. We all know that they don't have to run these test before someone comes up with the ideal that hey we can charge more. Remember 22 bullets

http://www.laboratoryequipment.com/news/2013/07/nuclear-radiation-test-can-fight-poachers
Title: Re: Ivory prices
Post by: GSLAM95 on July 02, 2013, 11:06:58 AM
Interesting read..  I agree that lifting the ban and regulating the sale would be more profitable for countries like Africa but they seem to be unable to grasp the idea.  I remember not that long ago seeing a news clip where there was a huge pile of ivory that the African government burned/destroyed just to make a statement.

They could fund enough conservation agents to wipe out poaching with what they could make in the ivory market through regulated sales..
Title: Re: Ivory prices
Post by: strutnrut on July 02, 2013, 11:47:44 AM
You just can fix stupid. I agree ain't many rocket scientist over there. Seems like it would be common sense, so that takes our government out of the picture. The kickbacks they receive from the shippers out weighs the profits they could get by legal sale of ivory. I would reckon that one of those huge clubs paid for the burning of the ivory. What do you think our governement does with conficated ivory? Destory or Auction
Title: Re: Ivory prices
Post by: West Augusta on July 02, 2013, 12:32:25 PM
Most of the Ivory is going to China.  They are buying up intricately carved ivory pieces for their houses.  There was a program on TV not to long ago about it.  
Some of the pieces were huge.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/02/world/asia/an-illicit-trail-of-african-ivory-to-china.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

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Supporters hoped a flood of cheap, regulated ivory would undercut the illegal trade, saving more elephants.

The sale, however, has proved to be a colossal failure. Like the forest canopy that protects poachers from detection, the regulated ivory trade has provided unscrupulous Chinese carvers and collectors with the ideal legal camouflage to buy and sell contraband tusks.
Title: Re: Ivory prices
Post by: Turkeycaller on July 02, 2013, 02:55:29 PM
Japan is also a BIG buyer. No matter what Richard...We are SCREWED  *cry* *cry*and you well know, our gov. doesn't give a Rat's Butt. *wha* *wha* *wha*
Dave
Title: Re: Ivory prices
Post by: GR8CALLS on July 02, 2013, 03:16:00 PM
Politics can ruin everything! Only the politically connected profit.  *poo* *poo*

Bill
Title: Re: Ivory prices
Post by: Old Geezer on July 02, 2013, 05:19:46 PM
Interesting read..  I agree that lifting the ban and regulating the sale would be more profitable for countries like Africa but they seem to be unable to grasp the idea.  I remember not that long ago seeing a news clip where there was a huge pile of ivory that the African government burned/destroyed just to make a statement.

They could fund enough conservation agents to wipe out poaching with what they could make in the ivory market through regulated sales..

Saw the same news clip.  A lot of potential revenue for a country that needed it went up in smoke.  Had they put it on the open market, good chance prices would have fallen.

Ralph
Title: Re: Ivory prices
Post by: Spring Dragon on July 02, 2013, 10:52:51 PM
A while back I watched a program on ivory and it seems to me that China is the biggest problem of imported illegal ivory and by far the largest users. 
Title: Re: Ivory prices
Post by: strutnrut on July 03, 2013, 07:31:02 AM
I have been asked by the Federal Wardens here on post where I get my Ivory from.
Title: Re: Ivory prices
Post by: GR8CALLS on July 04, 2013, 10:08:57 AM
I'd tell them, you use Elk Ivory!  ROTFLMBO ROTFLMBO ROTFLMBO

Bill
Title: Re: Ivory prices
Post by: Blackfalcon on July 04, 2013, 10:26:03 AM
I'd tell them, you use Elk Ivory!  ROTFLMBO ROTFLMBO ROTFLMBO

Bill
  *lol* That's what I use... ROTFLMBO
Title: Re: Ivory prices
Post by: mmclain on July 04, 2013, 11:35:51 AM
it is walrus and other oceanic mammal Ivory that really gets the Fed's asking too many questions and may result in trouble or a lot of pain in the arse ...............the elephant ivory trade laws were negotiated separately from oceanic mammal ivory.......