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Turkey Call Paradise => From the Hunter's Vest => Topic started by: TheCallDr on May 05, 2012, 01:41:19 PM
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Like the commercial from Capital One....... what's in your wallet theme. ;D
When I "load up" I will have a longbox, short box, push button, 2 trumpets, slate and glass, mouth calls, tube,scratch box, crow and owl.
When it get's hot and or I need to strip down and go lite.... trumpet, slate,scratch box and tube.
One call...... Trumpet hands down. ( kinda strange,maybe, because of all the friction calls I have designed or made )
After owning way to many callers ;) and just the fact I like to switch up which callers I take and get some field time in, there are only 2 callers that never leave my vest. A Southland Tube I have had since 85? and Crow call. I lost my fav Gibson crow call I carried for like the first 12 years and then replaced it with M L Walker.
Most Field Time of all the callers I have owned.
Lamar Williams Long Box.... Butternut / Cedar
Albert Paul Short Box.... Walnut Maple
Trumpet.... Billy Buice ( blackwood with wing bone )
Slate ( besides mine ) Cody
Tube.... Southland
Mouth Call.... Preston Pittman Black Diamond / then Half Reeds I cut myself.
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To make it simple:
Loaded for Turkey
Going Lite
One Call
Always in your Vest
Most Field Time
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I don't go light. *lol*
5 pots
1 long box
1 trumpet
Owl hooter and crow call
3 mouth calls
15 or so strikers
Camera
Bino's (small)
Wad of paper towels
Thermos of coffee
Shhhhhnacks
clippers
Scale
One call? Glen Marrer Zebrawood glass over slate and my black locust striker.
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Mike
I've gone a lot lighter! Zach Farmer trumpet, Slayton trumpet, Sharpe Jordan, Battey slate w/ West Augusta striker, Mississippi scratch box, one sider by Lamar Williams, and two mouth calls.
RkLu RkLu RkLu
Bill
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Fence Post
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Hey Dave, ain't a fence post kind hard to carry around all day hunting, must get dang heavy after a while ROTFLMBO...you should consider packing a box call *lol*
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I like to start light in the season, small box and 5 or 6 mouth calls, as the season progresses start carrying a couple of pots (home made slate and crystal), steves hickory stick, jeff's long box, a mudpuppi trumpet, BB short box, and snacks, bino's and..........
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Don't use a vest aka sweatcoat.
Bob
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BB
You're so darn skinny now, I doubt you have any sweat in ya! ROTFLMBO ROTFLMBO ROTFLMBO ROTFLMBO
Bill
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Loaded for Turkey:
Cane Creek Calls Super Tune Slate, Full Fan Custom Calls Walnut Slate, Enticer Rolling Thunder Double Glass, Bill Lyman Wenge Aluminum, Roger Parks "Tree Talker", Mother Lode X-Terminator Mouth Calls, Harrison Maple Hoot' N Stick and Maple Crow Call, Knight & Hale Tube Call, Striker Rollup Pouch with 3 of my strikers(Canarywood, Osage & Dogwood), Enticer Laminate striker and Aluminum tip striker, Steve Torman Locust, Bill Lyman Dymondwood, Cane Creek Hickory and Carbon, David Halloran Short Box and leather holster. Midland Action Cam, Gerber Knife and Clippers, small NWTF Multi-Tool, Conditioning kit, Cell Phone & Bottled Water
Going Lite:
Mother Lode X-Terminator Mouth Call, Striker Rollup Pouch, Cane Creek Super Tune Slate, Full Fan Custom Calls Walnut Slate, Knight & Hale Tube Call & Harrison Maple crow call
One Call:
Cane Creek Calls Super Tune Slate
Always in your Vest:
Cane Creek Calls Super Tune Slate, Full Fan Custom Calls Walnut Slate, & Mother Lode X-Terminator
Mouth Call
Most Field Time:
Cane Creek Calls Super Tune Slate
Full Fan Custom Calls Walnut Slate
Enticer Rolling Thunder Double Glass
Mother Lode X-Terminator Mouth Call
David Halloran Short Box
Knight & Hale Tube Call
Mother Lode X-Terminator Mouth Call
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Hey Dave, ain't a fence post kind hard to carry around all day hunting, must get dang heavy after a while ROTFLMBO...you should consider packing a box call *lol*
I shave it down to make it a little more aerodynamic. It seconds as meskeeter club!
*up*
I've took a like'n to these trumpets as my second choice.
*cheers*
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Like some of the rest, I start off pretty weighted down. As season progresses, I've narrowed it down to an MKW, J.L. Erb, L.F. Cox and Matt McLain trumpet, which I've been rotating out, one of my wingbones and Jordans, a Russell Beard handled shortbox, a John Eddleman cutter call and a Russell Beard scratchbox. I keep a set of shears in my vest to cut any cane that I may run across while hunting. It has been so hot and humid here that you have to run the AC in the vehicle at 5 A.M and drink a bottle of water before you get to your hunting place.
Mark
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I started to ride a mountain bike this year, and I am traveling lighter than I ever had. I carry a water bottle on the bike.
I have a Rohm Brothers all walnut box on my belt. I have a stacked frame mouth call. And I have a Hegler trumpet around my neck. Sling the newly acquired single shot over my shoulder and off I go.
*up*
I have been having the most productive season ever so far, what an opening week. Into gobblers four days I hunted all day long. Called a jake (passed on him), couple hens, a couple of gobblers all in, just no shooting.
*fall*
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I take a few extra calls with me in the beginning then change it up as the season goes on. Along with the must have items we all have, I carried my Walnut BeReady Wake-Up trough call and striker, A Do-Dat shorty from Jeff Mckamey. A couple of pots, the collaboration copper call FKIII and myself did together. I added a Wildtalker slate this year to my vest, which really sounded great and used it to get the double my buddy and I pulled off opening day. A bunch of extra strikers including a Black death locust from Steve Torman. Shady Tree call and scratch box from the Shadetree. A couple of trumpets, one from Mike Battey and another from Ralph Permar. *gobble* Boom !! *cheers*
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As a non-call in my vest I would have to say hunting the Low Country for so many years that the Thermocell and the ?????? you spray and treat your clothes for ticks and cigars...... was the greatest things invented. Having a pair of clippers is another "must have" there too. The next for me would be a GPS.
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If I had to rely on one call I would take a pot call, I've tried my trumpets on every hunt, but don't have that confidence that I need to carry alone. A thermacell is must!
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Non call items in the cargo pockets are a topo map, small ball compass, paper, turkey tote, light weight gloves, face mask, oh - scratch box in the shirt pocket, forgot that.
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This year I got it Done In NC and Texas with My longbox...Mineral Poplar and Canarywood..
Glen Marrer Slate.
Hanks Custom Calls Glass Call
My Scratchbox...Chestnut and Canarywood
Steve Torman "Black Death" Striker!
Mike Lapp Mouth Calls..
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If I had to rely on one call I would take a pot call, I've tried my trumpets on every hunt, but don't have that confidence that I need to carry alone. A thermacell is must!
I would have to agree that a turkey might not gobble to a Trumpet or WingBone caller as well as other type callers. Plus with a Pot call ( and others ) it's easier to snatch a gobble by cranking it up with yelps and cuts. In that respect a Pot call is great choice.... at least you know or can find where a gobbler is.
I asked the late Parker Whedon a long time ago why the trumpet or wing bone callers worked so well, when "other" type callers seemed to sound more like a turkey? ( not to mention how bad some sound on one and still consistently kill birds...lol )
His answer was, it must be the fact the sounds are made by the vibration of your lips and magnfied through the trumpet and controlled ( or altered ) by your "grip" or hands. This seemed to be the best answer that reproducing the sounds with your lips were "organic" and that all the sounds we are making or trying to make ( reproduce) is Bioaccoustical ( just like the human voice).
What that means is, the turkey Voice is made up of a complex wave form and variable harmonics. I was able to confirm that while to my ear other callers sounded Turkey ( or more Turkey ) that the Turkey was the judge of what sounded Turkey. Then talking to Billy Buice who has been making trumpets for some 45 years now........ said most hunters don't know how Turkey it sounds in the woods 100 yards away.
I have posted some of this before. There is a great story told by Tom Turpin in his book where he had an epiphany while hunting...... which led him to the air (lips) operated callers.
To sum this up for now....lol. In the Old days they judged how good a turkey caller was by dead turkeys. It's the modern hunter who judges a caller by Gobbles. I can't give you or anyone else confidence in you calling ability or the "sounds" you are making and what you hear. My bet, given such great instruments made today, that you are no where near the worst caller out there....... and those guys are slaying turkeys.
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WOW, Mike......
Just the opposite here in PA. this spring.....Friction to strike gobblers is naw and void.....Trumpets have been the best of anything to make them shock gobble....Omni-directional ??
I do think, the understory has played a definate affect on how well the sounds are carrying.......The gobblers sound way far off, and are within 2-300 yards....
Very NON-commital to calling.........Gobblers seem more interested in other gobblers, which isn't a good sign w/ 2+ weeks left in the season...
Time for plan "B" in what I'll start to carry in my vest in the morning.... :o
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I carry several different calls and rotate them on a regular basis. The one call that is a constant though is my Lonnie Sneed Hot Hen slate and Steve Torman dogwood striker. Deadly combo. I would say it is probably no better than a lot of pot calls I own but I have confidence that when I get on a gobbler he is going to die when I pull the Sneed/Torman combo out of my vest. Hard to argue with success in the field.
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I carry several different calls and rotate them on a regular basis. The one call that is a constant though is my Lonnie Sneed Hot Hen slate and Steve Torman dogwood striker. Deadly combo. I would say it is probably no better than a lot of pot calls I own but I have confidence that when I get on a gobbler he is going to die when I pull the Sneed/Torman combo out of my vest. Hard to argue with success in the field.
Rickey,
If you believe in that combo, & more importantly, the gobblers like that combo........it would never leave my vest other then the closing of season...
Best of luck to you fella's out there w/ Dorothy and Toto.....Hang em High... *cool*
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If I had to pick just one call, considering the success I've experienced with it the last two years, it would be the "Double Talker" that I make. Soft sounds so suttle that it is unbelieveable that the turkeys can even hear it. Definitely works best in the first hour of the day, but admittedly, that is the best hour of each day.
Fred
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I take a Frank Cox Trumpet and Box Call,, Zach Farmer Trumpet,, Darrin Dawkins Box Call and Darrin Dawkins Aluminum Pot and glass call, and Four different Mouth calls, 1 -Crow call.
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I like the sound of the trumpet, but for some reason it just didn't work for me, maybe next year. I went 4 mornings here in NC, I killed one with a trumpet, 1 w/ a Lyman glass call and called in 2 more w/ pot calls and my shooters weren't ready, can't do much better than that. I'll always have a trumpet in my vest and it will get used, someday they will work better for me, might just be stupid birds this year.......The one I called in for my brother saturday loved the green meanie from Glen Marrer, if only I had a extra tag, we would have been eating fried turkey ;D
This year was the first year that I had luck locating birds with a crow call, will always have that too!
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A trumpet call, may be the hardest for many to get cnfidence in using, but by just being able to yelp and cluck on one.....in my book can be the real deal.
Bill
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Bill, Would you let me read your book?
Bob
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Most don't realize how good they sound until you get off from them.
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One caller I will always take with me is a SSCustom Birdhouse II. Brings that late season gobbler to the gun and easy to carry! *gobble*
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Bill, Would you let me read your book?
Bob
Sure Bob.....but.......I wasn't aware you could read! That magazine you had w/ you in Nashville only had pictures in it! *wha* *wha* *peep* ROTFLMBO ROTFLMBO ROTFLMBO ROTFLMBO
Bill
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A trumpet call, may be the hardest for many to get cnfidence in using, but by just being able to yelp and cluck on one.....in my book can be the real deal.
Bill
It is a hard call for some. It also takes a LOT of practice for some people to learn the right air flow ( Sucking too hard ) and focus on the Tip of the mouthpiece where all the sound is produced and amplified through the trumpet. In some respects it's more of an Instrument than other type callers.
What I have found is confidence has to be established "before" you take it to the woods. If you don't believe you are going to kill a turkey with it the day before..... the hunt..... you will not have the "confidence" and "belief" the Day of the hunt. One has to believe the caller is as deadly as any other callers in their vest. Let me say it another way...... you have to believe the "Caller" is deadly.... not you playing it.
Now...... it has happened to all of us. You get dry mouth, or just the pressure ( on the spot) , to make a call to the turkey ends up with no sound. The only cure and best way for that is to call ( practice ) in the woods. Being able to call on demand...... is all about practice and not confidence.
One of the reasons we like a particular caller is because we have killed turkeys with it. So how are you going to gain that confidence if you don't kill turkeys with it? Some people just can't get the hang of it. But MOST give up and or switch to a caller that they "believe" in.
Bill is right. Yelping and clucking is all that is needed. But that applies to every caller ;)
I learned years ago ( and LOTS of callers ) that there is a balance to what I like and the Turkey likes.
There are LOTS of call makers out there that make great callers. ( not like it used to be ). The best one is what YOU play the best. I had a bag full of callers in camp a few years back. I had a friend of mine play all of them. It was without question that one of the callers "fit" him. Meaning he could really yelp on it. We went out that afternoon and he called up his first turkey with a trumpet.
Confidence is both mental and physical. It starts by believing that the Caller is deadly and not as much how well you have mastered it. So Bill, is really saying that you have to let the Turkey be the Judge and not You, to get or gain "confidence". My granddaughter was calling turkeys with a trumpet at 5 years old ( killed her first at 7 ). In fact, I had Ralph Permar make her a 1917 because her arms were so short.
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One call for me this year is a Brian Mero trumpet. Called in two with it. *up*