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Offline Roughneck

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Re: Need advice
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2014, 06:15:01 PM »
Well fellas çleaned both guns very good needles to say I shot 3 brands of ammo threw them an I will be using nitros from here on out. Myself I won't waste my money on the long beards any more still out of both guns horrible patterns. Magnum blend was better this go round. But the nitros worked great.

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Re: Need advice
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2014, 08:37:59 AM »
Leave me save you a lot of trouble the problem is the long beard ammunition. I have never shot a shell in any of my guns that wouldn shoot on zero until I was dumb enough to get a half a case of the Long beards. They shot a good 10" high in the super x 2 31/2". In the model 12 3" they shot 4" low. In the 1100 3" with a custom Bansner barrel the first shot blew the barrel up. There is a 2 1/4 inch x 3/8 wide barrel rupture and the rib was blown straight up in the air.The shot lok must have never fractures and everything went down the barrel until it hit the choke all in tact and then blew up.

I have contacted Olin Winchester and left messages 2 times with customer service as instructed. I have filled out the forms on the winchester web site 2 times. Today I went to bass pro and they are looking into it with there sales rep. but still no contact from anybody.
A friend of mine is having the same problem with the long beard shells. He has tried them in 6 different turkey guns but as of yet didnt blow a barrel. Finallt he took a gun and put adjustable sights on it and adjusted it to the load. Now he is afraid to shoot it because of my mishap. Winchester will not respond is it because there is big problems? I am sure my barrel isnt the only one to rupture. If anybody knows a contact at winchester I would certainly appreciate talking to them before somebody is hurt or worse!

 JRH



If you truly believe it was the shell and you cannot get through on other avenues, I would head to facebook.. Go to Winchesters page, take good pictures, be polite and state what happened and how you cannot get answers.. I would post it to their page as well as one of the many marketing threads they have for the shell. They have over 116,000 likes, and surely they will not ignore if others pay attention.

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Re: Need advice
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2014, 10:31:01 AM »
Thanks for the reply however Olin contacted me at 7:30 pm. last night after 3 days of phone calls and emails. Yes there is no doubt it was the shell the barrel was checked and clear before the shell was fired. The gun and a half a case of Long Beard ammunition was shipped to them this morning. Had I not been contacted last night I would have followed your advise.
Thanks.

Jon

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Re: Need advice
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2014, 10:57:17 AM »
Thanks for the reply however Olin contacted me at 7:30 pm. last night after 3 days of phone calls and emails. Yes there is no doubt it was the shell the barrel was checked and clear before the shell was fired. The gun and a half a case of Long Beard ammunition was shipped to them this morning. Had I not been contacted last night I would have followed your advise.
Thanks.

Jon
Thats good to hear and be sure and post up anything that you can disclose..

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Re: Need advice
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2014, 11:03:43 AM »
Holy smokes Jon I just saw this... I just bought 3 boxes and now I'm scared.  makes me wonder if another barrel bursting was caused by them...

ugh...  maybe I should stick with the thugs!


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Re: Need advice
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2014, 01:36:29 PM »
Thanks for the reply however Olin contacted me at 7:30 pm. last night after 3 days of phone calls and emails. Yes there is no doubt it was the shell the barrel was checked and clear before the shell was fired. The gun and a half a case of Long Beard ammunition was shipped to them this morning. Had I not been contacted last night I would have followed your advise.
Thanks.

Jon
Thats good to hear and be sure and post up anything that you can disclose..
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Re: Need advice
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2014, 01:53:05 PM »
Holy smokes Jon I just saw this... I just bought 3 boxes and now I'm scared.  makes me wonder if another barrel bursting was caused by them...

ugh...  maybe I should stick with the thugs!



Mike I sent all the Long Beard shells I had 1/2 case and the damaged gun to Olins ballistic lab today for testing. The barrel is blown but they also want to examine the gun for internal damage. This was at their request and Olin had ups pick them up at the house this morning.
Personally I wont be shooting them anymore.

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Re: Need advice
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2014, 09:57:42 PM »
Reports are that Hevi changed the recipe for their shells and they aren't getting good numbers anymore. 

I went from 296-300 in the 10" last year, and with the few shells I had from last year, down to about 240-245 with this years shells.